Has anyone tried the new Brooks Land's End panniers? Look like roll-
top Ortliebs, but made from a matte, greyish-brown waterproof
synthetic with a subtle plaid weave. Look appealing, but double the
price of the Ortliebs ($170 PER pannier). My assessment is that
everything Brooks makes except for their steel-railed saddles is way
overpriced. Too bad. The saddles OTOH are a bargain.

Gernot


On Mar 10, 3:10 am, Toshi Takeuchi <tto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
>
> The Carradice Super C hooks are super nice.  They start wide and then
> you engage the hook until it locks into the rack. It handles many
> widths of racks including my wider Old Man Mountain? rack and skinnier
> blackburn rack.  The Ortlieb comes with different adapters that allow
> you to use it with different racks, so it's not as useful in that
> regard because you would have to change out the adapters to use with
> different racks (I don't know the maximum width).
>
> Best,
> Toshi
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> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:47 AM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks, Toshi. If I remember the Carradice system from the --- senile mental
> > fart: forget the -- aha! Kendalls! -- If I remember those properly the C
> > system was a bit less bulky than Ortlieb's; I had to grind the outer hook
> > covers down on my Packers and smaller front packers to clear the fatter 1.35
> > Kojak when fitting them to the very minimalist Chauncey Matthews rear rack.
>
> > I must check the Carradices if and when I next buy some. Meanwhile the
> > Ortliebs are very, very nice.

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