They have to be an "unracer", or they won't get it.

Six miles through over-grown industrial park to drink a luke-cool High 
Life??? Heck yeah, but if you have to ask, never mind. :-)

-Allan

On Monday, June 18, 2012 4:57:49 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
>
> Andy: most Saturday mornings over the past 6+ years I lead a ride from my 
> shop, Hiawatha Cyclery in Minneapolis, that is much like this. The route is 
> determined on the fly and there are often offroad stretches and various 
> obstacles to surmount on the way to/from breakfast. At the beginning of 
> each ride, I usually have only a vague idea, if any, where we're gonna go. 
> We have a few regulars who are confirmed "roadies", and they sometimes 
> defect when the deviations-from-boring become too much. Amazingly to me, 
> rides that have the same (usually dull) route every week seem to be wildly 
> popular, while an unpredictable but fun ride puts people off (because I 
> can't give them a straight answer about distance, speed, or other 
> meaningless stats). Anyway, it sounds like your ride leader and I are on 
> the same page! It's so easy to get into the rut of commuting everyday and 
> having only a tiny number of recreational loops to ride. But the 
> permutations of adventure in any major city (or elsewhere) are endless.

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