When I climb those steep hills, I am very aware of pulling up quite hard to gain extra torque, something I can't do as well with clips and straps. I can feel the bike accelerate when pulling hard.
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> wrote: > When I rode fixie for a long time I used the clipless system because I knew > my foot wasnt going to come off down a descent and stick my leg into an MKS > eggbeater. I always found that when climbing though clipless seemed like > they limited how much i could stand up and just hammer on the pedals. I > never thought upstroke was really more than hogwash, long before reading > about grant's stuff. I lifted weights when I was wrestling and woudl do an > exercise that looked alot like a back stroke on a bike and it made my legs > burn and I had little power, I just dont think it is one that utilizes the > big muscles in your legs the right way. Legs are made for pushing, not > really for pulling. > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Bertin753 <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Actually, foot retention does help when grinding a fixed 70 -- 75" gear up >> a steep hill. You can't do it for long -- half a mile, say -- but it >> certainly helps. One reason I went back to clipless was that I kept pulling >> my feet out of the straps when climbing >> >> Patrick Moore >> iPhone >> >> On Jul 23, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> My favorite comment of all was >> >> "Mike In Bklyn from Brooklyn >> >> Boy there was a lot of misleading info in this segment. >> >> On clips and pulling up on the pedals-- anyone who tries to pedal a bike >> out of the saddle comes quickly to appreciate clips. And I don't know what >> kind of riding this quy has done, but he should try climbing a 9% grade hill >> and then tell me whether could do so without pulling up on pedals" Take >> that grant, i bet he is always just wishing he had those clipless pedals up >> Mt Diablo, since as another guy said the ones without clips ruin our knees. >> What a bunch of mouth breathers, this is why bikesnob has just been able to >> eviscerate the culture around bikes, it can just get so silly. And while it >> is a shame not everyone can afford a Rivendell that doesnt make them out of >> reach, I mean these people should think about how much money they piss away >> on cars and gas, you will make your money back pretty fast. >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I'm in full support of not riding with a helmet if that's what you >>> choose, but stories from old guys who made it through their youths without >>> them are easy to come by from the ones who actually made it, 'cause, ya >>> know, we made it! I crashed a goodly number of times on my old Stingrays and >>> 10-speeds, and banged my head hard a few times. I'm lucky I got away with >>> it, and usually wear a helmet now. >>> >>> Joe Bernard >>> Vallejo, CA. >>> >>> On Monday, July 23, 2012 8:31:38 PM UTC-7, charlie wrote: >>>> >>>> Great job Grant..........in such a limited format.....don't let some of >>>> doz guyz get ya down. Controversy always gets attention. Its just too bad >>>> many still believe the common misconceptions you often speak of. I used to >>>> think many of things you speak about were necessary (clipless pedals, >>>> cycling specific clothing, helmets all that stuff) until I actually thought >>>> about it critically and remembered my youth and all the riding we did >>>> without any of that stuff. I actually did ride a bicycle like most of the >>>> rest of the world did and still does with.........no helmet, no special >>>> 'kit', no special shoes, bars actually higher than my saddle, wider tires >>>> and no emphasis on riding all bent over like a professional racer. Those >>>> were some of the best bicycling years of my life.....and I didn't die >>>> (thankfully) from not wearing a helmet even though I crashed more than >>>> once. >>>> >>>> On Monday, July 23, 2012 12:03:20 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Good discussion, comments on the bottom of the page prove what an >>>>> asshole place NYC is to live.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/2012/jul/23/bicycling-101/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=%24%7Bfeed%7D&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+%24%7Bbl%7D+%28%24%7BBrian+Lehrer%7D%29 >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vyCfIaWKJXwJ. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- "When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville." 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