Maybe it's an individual thing, I always found myself stomping on them to
get more power.  Now I just sit in super low gear and if it's that steep
take a nice walk, my knees go snap crackle and pop in the morning as it is,
haha.
On Jul 24, 2012 10:25 AM, "PATRICK MOORE" <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> When I climb those steep hills, I am very aware of pulling up quite
> hard to gain extra torque, something I can't do as well with clips and
> straps. I can feel the bike accelerate when pulling hard.
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > When I rode fixie for a long time I used the clipless system because I
> knew
> > my foot wasnt going to come off down a descent and stick my leg into an
> MKS
> > eggbeater. I always found that when climbing though clipless seemed like
> > they limited how much i could stand up and just hammer on the pedals. I
> > never thought upstroke was really more than hogwash, long before reading
> > about grant's stuff. I lifted weights when I was wrestling and woudl do
> an
> > exercise that looked alot like a back stroke on a bike and it made my
> legs
> > burn and I had little power, I just dont think it is one that utilizes
> the
> > big muscles in your legs the right way. Legs are made for pushing, not
> > really for pulling.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Bertin753 <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Actually, foot retention does help when grinding a fixed 70 -- 75" gear
> up
> >> a steep hill. You can't do it for long  -- half a mile, say -- but it
> >> certainly helps. One reason I went back to clipless was that I kept
> pulling
> >> my feet out of the straps when climbing
> >>
> >> Patrick Moore
> >> iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jul 23, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> My favorite comment of all was
> >>
> >>  "Mike In Bklyn from Brooklyn
> >>
> >> Boy there was a lot of misleading info in this segment.
> >>
> >> On clips and pulling up on the pedals-- anyone who tries to pedal a bike
> >> out of the saddle comes quickly to appreciate clips. And I don't know
> what
> >> kind of riding this quy has done, but he should try climbing a 9% grade
> hill
> >> and then tell me whether could do so without pulling up on pedals"  Take
> >> that grant, i bet he is always just wishing he had those clipless
> pedals up
> >> Mt Diablo, since as another guy said the ones without clips ruin our
> knees.
> >> What a bunch of mouth breathers, this is why bikesnob has just been
> able to
> >> eviscerate the culture around bikes, it can just get so silly. And
> while it
> >> is a shame not everyone can afford a Rivendell that doesnt make them
> out of
> >> reach, I mean these people should think about how much money they piss
> away
> >> on cars and gas, you will make your money back pretty fast.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm in full support of not riding with a helmet if that's what you
> >>> choose, but stories from old guys who made it through their youths
> without
> >>> them are easy to come by from the ones who actually made it, 'cause, ya
> >>> know, we made it! I crashed a goodly number of times on my old
> Stingrays and
> >>> 10-speeds, and banged my head hard a few times. I'm lucky I got away
> with
> >>> it, and usually wear a helmet now.
> >>>
> >>> Joe Bernard
> >>> Vallejo, CA.
> >>>
> >>> On Monday, July 23, 2012 8:31:38 PM UTC-7, charlie wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Great job Grant..........in such a limited format.....don't let some
> of
> >>>> doz guyz get ya down. Controversy always gets attention. Its just too
> bad
> >>>> many still believe the common misconceptions you often speak of. I
> used to
> >>>> think many of things you speak about were necessary (clipless pedals,
> >>>> cycling specific clothing, helmets all that stuff) until I actually
> thought
> >>>> about it critically and remembered my youth and all the riding we did
> >>>> without any of that stuff. I actually did ride a bicycle like most of
> the
> >>>> rest of the world did and still does with.........no helmet, no
> special
> >>>> 'kit', no special shoes, bars actually higher than my saddle, wider
> tires
> >>>> and no emphasis on riding all bent over like a professional racer.
> Those
> >>>> were some of the best bicycling years of my life.....and I didn't die
> >>>> (thankfully) from not wearing a helmet even though I crashed more
> than once.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Monday, July 23, 2012 12:03:20 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Good discussion, comments on the bottom of the page prove what an
> >>>>> asshole place NYC is to live....
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/2012/jul/23/bicycling-101/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=%24%7Bfeed%7D&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+%24%7Bbl%7D+%28%24%7BBrian+Lehrer%7D%29
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