Maybe it's an individual thing, I always found myself stomping on them to get more power. Now I just sit in super low gear and if it's that steep take a nice walk, my knees go snap crackle and pop in the morning as it is, haha. On Jul 24, 2012 10:25 AM, "PATRICK MOORE" <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When I climb those steep hills, I am very aware of pulling up quite > hard to gain extra torque, something I can't do as well with clips and > straps. I can feel the bike accelerate when pulling hard. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > When I rode fixie for a long time I used the clipless system because I > knew > > my foot wasnt going to come off down a descent and stick my leg into an > MKS > > eggbeater. I always found that when climbing though clipless seemed like > > they limited how much i could stand up and just hammer on the pedals. I > > never thought upstroke was really more than hogwash, long before reading > > about grant's stuff. I lifted weights when I was wrestling and woudl do > an > > exercise that looked alot like a back stroke on a bike and it made my > legs > > burn and I had little power, I just dont think it is one that utilizes > the > > big muscles in your legs the right way. Legs are made for pushing, not > > really for pulling. > > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Bertin753 <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Actually, foot retention does help when grinding a fixed 70 -- 75" gear > up > >> a steep hill. You can't do it for long -- half a mile, say -- but it > >> certainly helps. One reason I went back to clipless was that I kept > pulling > >> my feet out of the straps when climbing > >> > >> Patrick Moore > >> iPhone > >> > >> On Jul 23, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> My favorite comment of all was > >> > >> "Mike In Bklyn from Brooklyn > >> > >> Boy there was a lot of misleading info in this segment. > >> > >> On clips and pulling up on the pedals-- anyone who tries to pedal a bike > >> out of the saddle comes quickly to appreciate clips. And I don't know > what > >> kind of riding this quy has done, but he should try climbing a 9% grade > hill > >> and then tell me whether could do so without pulling up on pedals" Take > >> that grant, i bet he is always just wishing he had those clipless > pedals up > >> Mt Diablo, since as another guy said the ones without clips ruin our > knees. > >> What a bunch of mouth breathers, this is why bikesnob has just been > able to > >> eviscerate the culture around bikes, it can just get so silly. And > while it > >> is a shame not everyone can afford a Rivendell that doesnt make them > out of > >> reach, I mean these people should think about how much money they piss > away > >> on cars and gas, you will make your money back pretty fast. > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> I'm in full support of not riding with a helmet if that's what you > >>> choose, but stories from old guys who made it through their youths > without > >>> them are easy to come by from the ones who actually made it, 'cause, ya > >>> know, we made it! I crashed a goodly number of times on my old > Stingrays and > >>> 10-speeds, and banged my head hard a few times. I'm lucky I got away > with > >>> it, and usually wear a helmet now. > >>> > >>> Joe Bernard > >>> Vallejo, CA. > >>> > >>> On Monday, July 23, 2012 8:31:38 PM UTC-7, charlie wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Great job Grant..........in such a limited format.....don't let some > of > >>>> doz guyz get ya down. Controversy always gets attention. Its just too > bad > >>>> many still believe the common misconceptions you often speak of. I > used to > >>>> think many of things you speak about were necessary (clipless pedals, > >>>> cycling specific clothing, helmets all that stuff) until I actually > thought > >>>> about it critically and remembered my youth and all the riding we did > >>>> without any of that stuff. I actually did ride a bicycle like most of > the > >>>> rest of the world did and still does with.........no helmet, no > special > >>>> 'kit', no special shoes, bars actually higher than my saddle, wider > tires > >>>> and no emphasis on riding all bent over like a professional racer. > Those > >>>> were some of the best bicycling years of my life.....and I didn't die > >>>> (thankfully) from not wearing a helmet even though I crashed more > than once. > >>>> > >>>> On Monday, July 23, 2012 12:03:20 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Good discussion, comments on the bottom of the page prove what an > >>>>> asshole place NYC is to live.... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/2012/jul/23/bicycling-101/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=%24%7Bfeed%7D&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+%24%7Bbl%7D+%28%24%7BBrian+Lehrer%7D%29 > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >>> To view this discussion on the web visit > >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vyCfIaWKJXwJ. > >>> > >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > "When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville." > > Flannery O'Connor > > ------------------------- > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > ------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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