Now that is a enhancer I can get behind.
On Aug 24, 2012 1:41 PM, "Marc Schwartz" <mschw...@nmsu.edu> wrote:

> I find my canti adjustment prowess doping enhanced... a ice cold pilsner
> on a this hot afternoon,.. Ahem,
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> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:20 AM
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> Subject: Re: [RBW] Lance Armstrong Stripped of Tour de France Titles
>
> I would rather discuss the aspects of drying paint than this Lance stuff.
> This has nothing to do with my continued frustration in adjusting the
> cantis on my Bombadil, I think the pads are too toed in.
>
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net
> <mailto:tim...@bitstream.net>> wrote:
> That's not what the judge said according to all the news articles I saw.
>  What I saw reported was that the judge determined that USADA had
> jurisdiction and that the case belonged in that process.  In his opinion
> the court had no reason to intervene- Lance brought it to court trying to
> get the process stopped, the USADA did not file the case in the court.
>
> As a former bike racing fan for some 40 years, I followed the Tour de
> France and a hundred other races every year very closely.  Lance was a star
> rider before his cancer and his comeback to win his first Tour was
> tremendous.  And then he won year after year with famous (and infamous)
> determination and drive.
>
> Then the doping stories came out.  Not about Lance but about the racers he
> defeated at the top of the leader board and the also-rans.  And I started
> wondering how a man could dominate, year after year, a field full of
> dopers.  The obvious answer was that he was doping too and that he was a
> lot better at it than his competitors.  I tried to give him the benefit of
> the doubt and defended him, but the obvious became too obvious.
>
> Doping in pro cycling is a very long tradition dating back since the start
> of the sport.  I think that accounts for the willingness of the UCI and
> race organizers to look the other way.  In Europe, pro cycling is big money
> and money buys closed eyes; a lot of money buys a lot of closed eyes- sort
> of like Congress and lobbyists.  Pro bike racing seems to be about as
> honest as professional wrestling.
>
> So I came to believe that Lance doped.  I watched closely as Floyd Landis
> and Tyler Hamilton and Jan Ullrich and others proclaimed their innocence
> and waged a media battle and sometimes bizarre legal battles.  Now we've
> seen Lance sounding exactly like Floyd and Tyler:  strident and whiny.
>  Lance even pulled out the "unconstitutional" card, claiming that the
> lawfully created American oversight body for sports and doping doesn't have
> the authority to oversee HIM.  Funny that he didn't make that argument when
> it was Floyd and Tyler in the crosshairs.  Lance also forgot the truth that
> "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel," as he invoked the
> Constitution to hide behind.
>
> So what we are left with is a tacit admission of guilt by Lance Amstrong.
>  The strong suspicion must be that he gave up the fight not because it was
> unfair or unconstitutional but because he was going to lose.  By quitting
> now he protects some ambiguity.  Why is this important?  Because Lance was
> paid millions of taxpayer dollars as a professional athlete whose results
> were the result of cheating.  He appears to have perpetrated fraud against
> the American people personally and financially.  This actually is a big
> deal.
>
> It's also got nothing to do with RBW and we probably shouldn't discuss it
> here, come to think of it.  There are plenty of other venues.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Marc Irwin <irwin7...@gmail.com<mailto:
> irwin7...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> What is also inevitable is a protest and appeal by the UCI.  They have
> protested the jurisdiction of the USADA since the case was introduced and
> the judge in Dallas told the USADA they didn't have a case worthy of judge
> to hear.  Oh well, it seems the races are "cleaner" now, except for Bradley
> Wiggins' mouth.
>
> Marc
>
> On Friday, August 24, 2012 5:37:40 AM UTC-4, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com<
> http://gmail.com> wrote:
> Seems inevitable, really, either because Lance *is* guilty of doping or
> because, by consistently beating others shown to have been doping, he so
> tested the objectivity of the testing agencies that they could never be
> happy until they convicted him. I doubt we've heard the last of this,
> though. . .
>
> lyle
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> On 24 August 2012 01:47, Jim Cloud <clou...@aol.com> wrote:
> Just picked this up from internet traffic:
>
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/lance-armstrong-stripped-tour-france-titles-internet-shock-233032763.html
>
> Jim Cloud
> Tucson, AZ
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