Now that is a enhancer I can get behind. On Aug 24, 2012 1:41 PM, "Marc Schwartz" <mschw...@nmsu.edu> wrote:
> I find my canti adjustment prowess doping enhanced... a ice cold pilsner > on a this hot afternoon,.. Ahem, > ________________________________________ > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] > on behalf of Peter Morgano [uscpeter11...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:20 AM > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Lance Armstrong Stripped of Tour de France Titles > > I would rather discuss the aspects of drying paint than this Lance stuff. > This has nothing to do with my continued frustration in adjusting the > cantis on my Bombadil, I think the pads are too toed in. > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net > <mailto:tim...@bitstream.net>> wrote: > That's not what the judge said according to all the news articles I saw. > What I saw reported was that the judge determined that USADA had > jurisdiction and that the case belonged in that process. In his opinion > the court had no reason to intervene- Lance brought it to court trying to > get the process stopped, the USADA did not file the case in the court. > > As a former bike racing fan for some 40 years, I followed the Tour de > France and a hundred other races every year very closely. Lance was a star > rider before his cancer and his comeback to win his first Tour was > tremendous. And then he won year after year with famous (and infamous) > determination and drive. > > Then the doping stories came out. Not about Lance but about the racers he > defeated at the top of the leader board and the also-rans. And I started > wondering how a man could dominate, year after year, a field full of > dopers. The obvious answer was that he was doping too and that he was a > lot better at it than his competitors. I tried to give him the benefit of > the doubt and defended him, but the obvious became too obvious. > > Doping in pro cycling is a very long tradition dating back since the start > of the sport. I think that accounts for the willingness of the UCI and > race organizers to look the other way. In Europe, pro cycling is big money > and money buys closed eyes; a lot of money buys a lot of closed eyes- sort > of like Congress and lobbyists. Pro bike racing seems to be about as > honest as professional wrestling. > > So I came to believe that Lance doped. I watched closely as Floyd Landis > and Tyler Hamilton and Jan Ullrich and others proclaimed their innocence > and waged a media battle and sometimes bizarre legal battles. Now we've > seen Lance sounding exactly like Floyd and Tyler: strident and whiny. > Lance even pulled out the "unconstitutional" card, claiming that the > lawfully created American oversight body for sports and doping doesn't have > the authority to oversee HIM. Funny that he didn't make that argument when > it was Floyd and Tyler in the crosshairs. Lance also forgot the truth that > "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel," as he invoked the > Constitution to hide behind. > > So what we are left with is a tacit admission of guilt by Lance Amstrong. > The strong suspicion must be that he gave up the fight not because it was > unfair or unconstitutional but because he was going to lose. By quitting > now he protects some ambiguity. Why is this important? Because Lance was > paid millions of taxpayer dollars as a professional athlete whose results > were the result of cheating. He appears to have perpetrated fraud against > the American people personally and financially. This actually is a big > deal. > > It's also got nothing to do with RBW and we probably shouldn't discuss it > here, come to think of it. There are plenty of other venues. > > Tim > > > On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Marc Irwin <irwin7...@gmail.com<mailto: > irwin7...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > What is also inevitable is a protest and appeal by the UCI. They have > protested the jurisdiction of the USADA since the case was introduced and > the judge in Dallas told the USADA they didn't have a case worthy of judge > to hear. Oh well, it seems the races are "cleaner" now, except for Bradley > Wiggins' mouth. > > Marc > > On Friday, August 24, 2012 5:37:40 AM UTC-4, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com< > http://gmail.com> wrote: > Seems inevitable, really, either because Lance *is* guilty of doping or > because, by consistently beating others shown to have been doping, he so > tested the objectivity of the testing agencies that they could never be > happy until they convicted him. I doubt we've heard the last of this, > though. . . > > lyle > > -- > lyle f bogart dpt > > 156 bradford rd > wiscasset, me 04578 > 207.882.6494<tel:207.882.6494> > 206.794.6937<tel:206.794.6937> > > > On 24 August 2012 01:47, Jim Cloud <clou...@aol.com> wrote: > Just picked this up from internet traffic: > > > http://news.yahoo.com/lance-armstrong-stripped-tour-france-titles-internet-shock-233032763.html > > Jim Cloud > Tucson, AZ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > -- > lyle f bogart dpt > > 156 bradford rd > wiscasset, me 04578 > 207.882.6494<tel:207.882.6494> > 206.794.6937<tel:206.794.6937> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lcE-ros9HjgJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > <mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto: > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > <mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto: > rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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