I haven't touched a 176 but I seem to remember that it has a slightly more 
sloping ramp to it than the Noodle, and it doesn't have the backwards curve 
to the flats.  The 115 is similar, I've used it and found it to have too 
much reach and drop for me, except on bikes with a super short top tube.   
It does have roomy ramps and flats so there's plenty of hand positions on 
top of the bar.  

On Thursday, October 4, 2012 6:02:05 PM UTC-7, tragicallyaverage wrote:
>
> Thanks. I'm considering the Nitto 176 - can't quite tell from photos of it 
> - is the angle between the ramps and drops the same as the Noodle?
> I'm also considering the Nitto B115. Anyone used that one?
>
> On Monday, October 1, 2012 11:27:18 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Till wrote:
>>
>> The normal Nitto choices (Noodle, 176 Dream, Marks, Rando, etc.) and the 
>> similar (in shape, not saying anything about quality) Compass/Grand Bois 
>> and Velo Orange options are the broad range of go-to choices around here, 
>> and a lot of people like their classic looks and roomy curves.  However, 
>> the flip side of flat ramps and roomy curves is that these bars often have 
>> a lot of reach and sometimes drop, so if you feel like these might stretch 
>> you out too far with your preferred cockpit length (TT length and stem), 
>> there's tons of good options in the short reach and drop department.  The 
>> tradeoff is tighter "ergo" curves on the bars which may or may not jive 
>> with your aesthetic sensibilities.  
>>
>> The aforementioned Salsa Bell Lap and Cowbell fit into this category, and 
>> both feature drops which are slightly flared.  Other "short" bars include 
>> the Salsa Pro Road, the Soma Hwy 1 (available in silver with a 26.0mm clamp 
>> diameter), and a number of Nitto designs not sold by Rivendell.  Check out 
>> the Soma online store, which is the retail outlet for Nitto importers Merry 
>> Sales (any LBS with a Merry Sales account can also order most of these 
>> bars):
>>
>> http://store.somafab.com/nittoroadbars.html
>>
>> If you want to try the short and shallow thing without investing in nice 
>> new bars and can work with a 31.8mm clamp for a while, a lot of LBS's that 
>> sell contemporary road bikes will often have a "take-off" bin of stock drop 
>> bars from current road bikes, from when they are swapped out by customers 
>> for a different design.  I'm running a pair of Felt-branded generic drop 
>> bars at the moment and they've convinced me that I prefer shorter reach 
>> bars.  Maybe i'll buy something nicer sometime soon.  
>>
>> I'm leaving out full-on flared drop bars like the On-One Midge, Salsa 
>> Woodchipper, Origin8 Gary V1, Nitto RM-014 and older WTB designs, since in 
>> my mind these are a distinct category of bars requiring a completely 
>> different cockpit geometry from normal road drop bars to be set up 
>> comfortably.  
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:10:59 PM UTC-7, tragicallyaverage wrote:
>>>
>>> Building up a bike and it needs some new drops. Any suggestions? What do 
>>> you ride?
>>> I know Noodles of course, and I've tried them in 3 different widths and 
>>> for some reason they don't hit home for me.
>>> If you had to put a drop bar other than a Noodle on your Riv/Riv-ish 
>>> bike, what would it be?
>>>
>>

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