I was surprised the OP did not think that pounds of extra weight might not be responsible for the go fast feel of his go fast bike...even though by some standards both are relatively heavy. But 4 pounds is 4 pounds. I was suggesting weight is a significant factor in the gestalt of how a bike rides and feels to the rider. My custom steel with carbon fork weighs about 21 pounds. My Roubaix weighs about 16.5. I like them both a lot, but for pure paved road riding, given a choice, I most often seem to choose the Roubaix. On Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:13:37 PM UTC-8, ted wrote: > > Cool, thanks for the added detail. > As to my point, Im not sure I have one, though Im not sure what yours > was either. The original poster seemed to opine that the 4 lb > difference between a 31lb bike and a 35 lb bike didn't matter much. > You suggested he try a bike that weighs about half as much, or about > 16lbs less, or about 4 times as big a weight difference than he was > talking about. > By all means ride what you like. > > On Jan 13, 3:40 pm, eflayer <eddie.fla...@att.net> wrote: > > my Roubaix weighs 16.5 with all the normal road riding parts; pedals > saddle > > cages, etc. what's your point? light is fast and fun. some like/need a > 30 > > lb bike, some prefer lighter. why truck when you can fly? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 13, 2013 9:37:23 AM UTC-8, ted wrote: > > > > > Is that 16.5 lbs your measurement? Does it include saddle, pedals, and > > > cages (race bikes are often weighed without those components)? > > > What is your lightest steel bike, and what wheels and components are > > > on it? > > > Also keep in mind that adding 4 lbs to your 16.5 lb roubaix is an > > > increase of nearly 25% whereas adding the same 4 lbs to a 31 lb bike > > > is only a 13% increase. > > > > > On Jan 13, 6:54 am, eflayer <eddie.fla...@att.net> wrote: > > > > You might try a 16.5 lb Specialized Roubaix and let us know what you > > > think > > > > about that :). Mine weighs about 4 lbs less than my lightest steel > bike. > > > I > > > > still like steel a ton, but for pure fast club road rides, the > Roubaix > > > is > > > > more fun in most ways. > > > > > > On Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:33:04 PM UTC-8, Scot Brooks wrote: > > > > > > > I spend about equal time on my Sam Hillborne and my Soma Double > Cross. > > > To > > > > > abbreviate the way they're normally set up, the Sam's got a 40/24 > > > 12-36 > > > > > drivetrain, 35c Soma New Xpress tires, front rack/basket/Shopsack. > The > > > > > Soma's got a 48/34 11-34 drivetrain, 35c Schwalbe Marathon Racers, > > > front > > > > > rack, front and rear Sackville bags. > > > > > > > Anyway, I always assumed that my Soma was kind of a lightweight > > > go-fast > > > > > bike with it's fancy Tange Prestige tubing and slightly more > > > aggressive > > > > > geometry (shorter chain stays anyway). Compared to the Sam, it > just > > > takes > > > > > off like crazy and *feels *incredibly quick and nimble. > Lo-and-behold, > > > I > > > > > got one of those hook scale things today, and the total weight of > each > > > bike > > > > > was 35lbs for the Sam and 31lbs for the Soma. > > > > > > > I thought it was the weight that explained the difference in feel, > but > > > > > clearly that's not the case. Both are equally pleasurable to ride, > but > > > > > there must be far more factors involved in the overall "feel" of > each > > > bike > > > > > than I might have guessed. >
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