Great feedback. I already set my fenders with slightly more clearance on
the exit end for precisely the same reason Gernot explains. I guess the
rest will always be left to chance...


On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Earl Grey <earlg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The most important part of fender set up for avoiding jamming is to make
> the clearance tightest at the rear end of the fender, and gradually let it
> get more generous towards the front, so that if something gets sucked up in
> there, it has a good chance of getting spit out again, too. In addition, I
> think more clearance is better for avoiding jamming things, since a larger
> item is significantly less likely to get picked up by the tire and lifted
> all the way under the fender.
>
> And in case you think this never happens: My friend Paul's Sam with SKS
> fenders and Marathon Extremes (relatively knobby) got a stick stuck in his
> fender on his first ride on a dirt road and pretzeled his fender. bent it
> back into shape and it is still useable, but it can happen.
>
> Gernot
> Thailand
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:01:44 AM UTC+7, René wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>
>> I have no problem fitting 60mm Berthoud fenders on my Hunqapillar to use
>> with 50mm Marathon Dureme or equivalent tires. In fact, I have so much
>> clearance, that my question really intended to ask how much is needed to
>> really minimize the risk of a rock, piece of gravel or stick to get stuck
>> when riding off-road, and if having too much clearance between the tire and
>> the metal fender just meant that larger and potentially larger rocks could
>> get stuck.
>>
>> I've already fitted both fenders to what I decided was optimal for both
>> looks and clearance, and will post photos when the build is complete,
>> unless someone wants to see something faster than that. I'm taking my sweet
>> time to both enjoy it to the max as well as to ensure I make no mistakes.
>>
>> I'm also debating whether to go with my original plan to have the
>> 24/40/Guard Sugino crankset which is forcing me to go with a wider BB,
>> going down to 24/38/Guard to increase the clearance between the 38 and the
>> chainstay or just go back the the 24/36/46 triple I had, maybe even going
>> 24/36/Guard as I never seem to use the 46...suggestions welcome!
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Shoji Takahashi 
>> <shoji.t...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Lovelybike has info on a Surly Cross Check with Fat Franks and VO
>>> Zeppelins. (Lots of pics.)
>>> http://lovelybike.blogspot.**com/2011/06/surly-cross-check-**
>>> review-colourful.html<http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2011/06/surly-cross-check-review-colourful.html>
>>>
>>> She mentions: "On the downside, the clearances between the tires and
>>> fenders are so tight, that the set-up is not really practical for serious
>>> off-road cycling: stuff can get caught in there and cause problems. But for
>>> fire trails and gravel paths it is fine..."
>>>
>>> I don't think I would do this with knobbies.
>>>
>>> Good luck-- looking forward to the pics of the build.
>>> Shoji
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:09:53 PM UTC-4, AaronY wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> What size were the hammered fenders?  The largest size I can find on
>>>> the VO site is a 47 which could be the reason that a 47 tire would have
>>>> difficulty fitting with sufficient clearance.  If you really want metal
>>>> fenders they have the Zeppelin style in 52, but that might even be a tight
>>>> fit for Rene's 50 mm Duremes. Here's a link to their fender page. I
>>>>
>>>> http://store.velo-orange.com/**i**ndex.php/accessories/fenders.**h**
>>>> tml?p=1<http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders.html?p=1>
>>>>
>>>> In the past my metal fenders have all been from VO and I've been happy
>>>> with them.
>>>>
>>>> Aaron Young
>>>> Vancouver, WA
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 17, 2013, Robert Barr wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rene,
>>>>>
>>>>> I struggled with the fenders on my Hunqapillar. My thoughtful wife
>>>>> bought me some hammered VOs as a gift because I had mentioned that I
>>>>> thought they would look great on the Hunq. And they would have -  but with
>>>>> 47-622 Marathons there wasn't a mm to spare. My normal commute takes me
>>>>> down a gravel trail with stones and sticks. I fret the sticks more than 
>>>>> the
>>>>> stones. After several attempts to fit the VOs (two sizes and lots of
>>>>> thinking..). I had to go back to my tried and true SKS. They  worked best
>>>>> for me and where I ride. Good luck...
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
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