>My hamster must be in great shape, little guy is always running on that 
wheel, of course he is only in good shape to run on a wheel....<

I think he is training for that day when you forget to latch his cage! Do 
you notice him varying his workouts??

I'm also a ride to train person.  Although, I also ride sometimes to get 
places, and then I am not training.



On Friday, March 29, 2013 6:12:24 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
>
> I was a 5 sport letterman, I am black belt and had offers to play college 
> football, albeit AAA schools, haha.  I used to be competitive in most 
> things but no offense to cyclists or runners in general but I just never 
> saw them as something that needed to be competitive. I ran cross country 
> but it was more about camaraderie than "winning" so I guess I just apply 
> that mantra to cycling nowadays.  More power to anyone who is disciplined 
> enough to basically compete against themselves, though it's more than I 
> could say for myself. I always hated weight training and aerobics during 
> wrestling and football. I am like Bruce now, just trying to be in enough 
> shape to enjoy the ride. 
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> Fascinating, Patrick. I'm the opposite. I was über competitive pre-brain 
>> injury. One of the hardest things for me to learn was to avoid going 
>> anaerobic because of the additional stress and hormones it releases. What I 
>> discovered, for me anyway, was just how much more enjoyment I got out of 
>> doing whatever I was doing because I was doing it "sustainably" rather than 
>> pushing myself to the edge. An unexpected benefit of doing that was I am 
>> able to do it as fast now as pre-brain injury but with far less effort and 
>> much more enjoyment.
>>
>> I love what you say about the time to reflect when exerting yourself. For 
>> me, running and biking are beautiful times of prayer, active contemplation. 
>> My body working is deep time for my clay, mind, and soul.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 29, 2013 1:50:49 PM UTC-6, Patrick in VT wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:26:42 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  what are people really "training" for other that for more riding?  
>>>>
>>>
>>> Training is more a byproduct of my lifestyle than anything else.  I'm 
>>> very goal oriented and tend to set goals in the areas of my life in which I 
>>> have some passion and maybe a sliver of talent. Reaching a goal is 
>>> incredibly gratifying - I love that feeling, regardless of whether my goal 
>>> is sport-oriented or not.  Truly, I don't consider training for running, 
>>> cycling or skiing any different than "practicing" the instruments I play - 
>>> I simply do exercises that help me reach my potential within the time 
>>> constraints my life will allow.  I just do stuff that will hopefully make 
>>> me better at what I like doing.  Participation in sport is another reason I 
>>> train.  I'm not competitive by nature, but I love sport.  It's fun and full 
>>> of emotion, which makes it a source of motivation for me.  which lends 
>>> consistency to my life ...and it's amazing how far we can get with 
>>> consistency.  do something daily for a few years and wow.  participation 
>>> also gets me more involved in my community - i live in a very active town 
>>> where people are outside doing stuff all the time. my city hosts a 
>>> marathon, a cycling stage race, triathlon nationals.  we have a big 'ole 
>>> lake and some mountains to play in.  being a part of that community brings 
>>> all kinds of positive reinforcement.  and then there are the upsides of 
>>> training, like good health and fitness.  and being able to share fun 
>>> experiences with family and friends.  and reduced stress.  and I sleep very 
>>> well.  there's a spiritual component to a good long ride or run too - i 
>>> appreciate the time i get to reflect when "training" and never take that 
>>> for granted.  training and "just riding" are pretty much the same for me. a 
>>> couple times a week, it's not "just riding."  but that's fine too.  I still 
>>> enjoy it.
>>>
>>> sorry if that was a long answer to a question that intended to be 
>>> rhetorical!
>>>
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