Patrick, the Sycip Wonderbar is awesome. I have them on my QB not drilled for barend shifters though. - Mike
Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2013, at 9:18 AM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jeremy -- excellent information -- answers my question exactly. Thanks a lot. > I've committed to the B136, but the next stop, if that don't work, is the > Albatross for sure. > > So now the question becomes: Albatross, or some other "upright" bar. > > Will report on the B136. > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Keven and I talked about this when I rode the Appaloosa and subsequently >> bought some Bosco Bullmooses for my Quickbeam. Keven reports feeling like >> he actually has more power on his proto-appaloosa with the upright position >> versus his earlier drop bar bikes. After putting the Boscos on my Quickbeam >> (coming from a relatively racy flat bar setup before, which kept my back >> much more inclined), I can report that I feel absolutely no loss of power >> going to full-upright, including on long, low-rpm, singlespeed climbs, which >> you know all about, Patrick. And in general, I feel less worn out after >> riding the QB with the upright position versus similar rides on the previous >> flat bars. >> >> I'm also amazed at how much better the view is from up there. I find myself >> noticing new things, new views on rides that I've done dozens of times >> before. >> >> I should note that at least on my Quickbeam, I do run a fairly slack seating >> position, with a Nitto S84 (40mm offset) seatpost on the QB's 72 deg. seat >> tube, so I do still have a good angle between my torso and legs even when my >> torso is bolt upright. As I said before, I haven't seen the Appaloosa geo, >> but I wouldn't be surprised if the seat tube angle were slightly slacker, >> like maybe 71 deg, than the more standard Riv designs. >> >> Also, don't underestimate the number of hand/back positions that are >> possible with these bars. If you do need a bit of back inclination, sliding >> your hands forward is really effective at stretching you out. >> >> On Saturday, May 4, 2013 9:38:39 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>> One concern I have about using Albatross bars is that I fear that the >>> upright position might make me lose power (and I don't have much). I always >>> feel stronger when pushing from well behind the bb with my torso at 45* or >>> more -- I often naturally fall into the hooks when I want a bit of power up >>> a rise or against a wind -- the hooks are for power as much as aerodynamics. >>> >>> I look at old roadsters and can see that, with their hugely slack seat >>> tubes, even sitting upright you have a large bend between hips and torso. >>> How does this work with a steep 72* or 73* seat tube? >>> >>> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Jeremy Till <jerem...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "When I rode the proto, Keven made the comparison to engine placement in a >>> sports car. Just going upright on a bike with "normal" chainstay length, >>> you end up with something like an early 80's Porsche, with the engine >>> hanging out over the rear wheels, making the front end of the car light. >>> In bikes, this becomes a problem for attacking steep climbs, since the >>> front wheel won't stay planted. According to Keven, extending the >>> chainstays helps make things more balanced in turn and allows you to stay >>> upright with your butt planted in the saddle on climbs, rather than lean" >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > > -- > > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > Albuquerque, NM > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.