It's that extra 2.8cm that's doing it. I think you need a smaller frame if
you want drops.

Cheers,
David



On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Michael <john11.2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> @ Patrick:
>
> I have tried what you mention with raising the bars with drops and
> staches on the Bleriot and Sam and those angles give me low back pain for
> days.
> I have found that I have to be at or below saddle height to be comfortable
> with drop bars. Though if it is a too long reach like the Sam I apparently
> get the neck and arm stuff, which is why I have to try a 6cm stem on the
> Sam now for drops. The 8cm Tallux is just too long.
>
> However, the Albas totally eliminate the neck issue because the reach is
> so far back. And, sitting bolt upright, my back seems to be ok with it so
> far. Only time will tell.
>
> So it looks like, I gotta be at or below saddle height, or all the way
> upright on a bike. I cannot do the in between levels like with raised drops
> and staches. Albas let you get all the way upright. But drops and staches
> on a 225 Technomic won't. So I gotta get low and stay low with them.
>
> I originally wanted to get a Rivbike for a few reasons:
> 1. The possibility of Technomically higher drop bars - but turns out my
> back doesn't like it.
> 2. Wider tire-ability - check.
> 3. Fenderability - check.
> 4. Safety and dependability of steel over carbon - check.
> So I guess 3 outta 4 ain't bad.
>
>
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