Hey Hugh, I've ton many 80+ mile days in MUSA and Chrome shorts with ExOfficio underwear with no issues. Oh, and the saddle is a B17. I think body type and position can have a lot to do with what works. It sounds like you've also gone to platform pedals? Hope you're using the VPs, I love mine. And Mike W., I'll likely put the Albas on my Hilsen. While I hate dealin with re-cabling the brakes and shifters, it's really not that hard. Finding the time between attending to my newborn daughter and my mom's illness is really the barrier. Hell, I haven't even sat down to look at the new Riv catalog. There's just not enough time. It sure was great to get out for a 4hr ride yesterday with everything that's been going on. After Feb I should be able to get out biweekly for a ride in the 4 to 5hr range along with shorter weekly rambles. --mike
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