Sometimes there is bleed over from the jobber's location and sizing, like
they make garments on their increments and convert them to US sizing once
done. Shoes do that notoriously, all last variances aside.
I was in Jackson, WY summer before last and in an effort to have the
clothing for the spectrum of conditions expected I tossed in an old
Synchilla Snap-T in the most horrific tennis ball yellow ("acid" in that
year's catalogue) my wife wore often and I had a full zip Marmot rough
fleece jacket with me. Folks called us out for those two garments every
day, each is over 25 years old. Once had a guy in a grocery check out line
tell me he bought the same Snap-T for his grand mom in the nursing home
because he was sure no one would steal it. Color palette attractiveness
changes as much as sizing, although much less objective as sizing.
Andy Cheatham
Pitttsburgh
On Monday, November 18, 2013 4:44:11 PM UTC-5, jinxed wrote:
>
> A couple weeks back my trusty Patagonia Snap-T Synchilla that's been with
> me since college mysteriously "disappeared" at a coffee shop. Needless to
> say, I was mad to lose such a long owned and well used piece of clothing.
>
> Today, I go to check out what colors they come in now so I can make that
> my one wish for the coming holiday season. Thankfully I find they still
> make the Snap-T...BUT WTH happened to the cut and sizing?! When I pulled a
> medium (same size I had) off the rack, I could not believe how HUGE it was!
> I honestly assumed it was mislabeled. Then I looked at the small...it was a
> bit smaller, but I realized it was the fit that had changed. It's like it
> lost all shape and became a trash bag with holes in it. I realize baggy fit
> was in for a while, but never really associated that with outdoor apparel.
> So it seems I'll have to find an old one if I want the same thing. Ugh.
>
> This got me thinking about cycling specific clothing and how (or if) it's
> changed. For the most part the lycra set has remained unchanged...tight and
> stretchy is tight and stretchy. But my interest was with styles closer to
> and specifically Rivendell type items. I noticed a couple of the new
> clothing items have specifically undergone a "slimming" recently and
> mentioned as requested. Not that I saw any of their clothes as baggy per
> say, but more relaxed. I'm fairly normal 5'8" @ 145lbs so I tend to skirt
> the small/medium in the MUSA range depending on cut. SO for me a slimmer
> cut is fine and will most likely fit as intended. But then I know some of
> the older wool jerseys were more traditionally form fitting. My medium
> Seersucker fits a little loose in the body, but the collar and sleeves are
> spot on. Same with the Railroad shirt. Interestingly I have a couple pair
> of old MUSA shorts in size XL! that work fine on my 32 waist. Weird.
>
> I've been biking since about 88 and realized that aside from the lycra,
> all my casual cycling gear has been purchased based on the same fit. Room
> enough to move, but never baggy. That has worked no matter what type of
> riding I'm doing.
>
> All that brought me to thinking about bike fit and sizing too. There has
> been lots of discussion on the RBW vs. conventional types of fitting and
> it's probably safe that if you're here you at least in part agree with the
> former. But then it seems RBW fitting has evolved over time too. Looking at
> the first All Rounder it was clearly not a bars above the saddle fit. The
> head tubes got taller, then up sloping top tubes, and newly designed bars
> to go even higher. I wonder if it will keep going up?
>
> Do you find yourself wishing that a certain era of "fit" had frozen in
> time or do you tend to like the evolving nature of it? Like my Patagonia
> fleece, I'm disappointed they changed it as it seemed like a perfect design
> to ME. But then I'm very happy that the fatter tire revolution seems to be
> gaining steam.
>
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