Give me enough time: I may end up with three bikes, Anne. I've had a 
similar thought as you: Hunqapillar for roads of any kind, and any trails I 
want; ECR for backcountry tours and some snow; Moonlander for deep winder 
riding almost anything I want. That's likely gonna be a while though, and I 
don't know yet how my vertigo responds to 3"+ tires. That takes a trip out 
to Durango (Denver is too noisy for me to try riding there). 

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 12:43:45 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> I test-rode the ECR's father, the Surly Krampus, also with 3" tires. 
> I'm very seriously eyeing it. The only place where it failed was deep 
> dry beach sand (like a sand dune). It just ate up everything else. 
>
> For serious snow you might want a Pugsley (4" tires). From what I've 
> learned, a Krampus/ECR rides like a mountain bike and is fine on the 
> road, but a Pugsley gives away more when it's not on difficult stuff. 
>
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Deacon Patrick 
> <lamon...@mac.com<javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
>
> > 
> > I am seriously eyeing a 3" Surly ECR both for improved range in snow, 
> sand, 
> > and for being able to ride more of the rough-stuff trails. 
>
> -- Anne Paulson 
>
> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>

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