Right – the desire for a deal is satisfied by getting the free shipping, for 
me.  I can’t remember the last sub-$150 Riv order I placed.  OTOH, I have quite 
an inventory of chains and cassettes waiting for the right project.  ;-)

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:06 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site

I agree completely.  Bravo for the soapbox talk.  I try and give the benefit of 
the doubt to the WTB posts like that, assuming that the people fishing for a 
deal really sincerely cannot afford to pay full price.  You are absolutely 
right, though, that if everybody did it, it would represent a real problem.  I 
know I struggle with it, the need to feel like I'm getting a deal.  Fortunately 
for Rivendell, my need to get a deal usually just forces me to put more stuff 
in my cart so I can get the free shipping.  My need to get a deal led me to use 
both of the current coupon codes (January best/worst sellers + bike snob free 
shipping) and place an order yesterday.



On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:25:03 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
Branching off comments in another thread - and no doubt generating much 
unpopularity, but I'm a liberal who chats regularly with conservatives on 
politics sites, so I'm ok with it - this topic has been an edgy one for me for 
quite some time. There's much buying/selling that goes on here for Riv and 
Riv-ish things - I do it, too - which is fine: If you have a bag or stem lying 
around you're not using, might as well sell it, right? Right, but when it comes 
to actively searching around for "a deal" on things Rivendell sells, I get a 
little queasy about this being done on a Riv Forum as opposed to Ebay or 
Craigslist.

What concerns me is that we've developed a secondary market amongst each other 
for things we can buy new from RBW, and if that market continues to flourish at 
the expense of the folks who originally provided the products, we're eventually 
going to find ourselves wondering what happened to those nice folks in Walnut 
Creek. Of course I'm not saying we have to stop selling things we don't need 
anymore, but I think we should be careful how hard we push the 'search' part of 
this activity on a Riv-specific forum. A while back I needed a DirtDrop stem, a 
headlight, and some reflectors. Rivendell sells them. They came expertly packed 
in a nice little box.

Joe "soapbox" Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
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