I use brushless motors in my tank-And it seems to work 
well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MlTcjFC61E 
And nobody can beat the 
price-http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8490__Turnigy_4258_Brushless_Motor_800kv.html?strSearch=4258


Den onsdag den 29. juli 2015 kl. 22.04.24 UTC+2 skrev RocketMan:
>
> >> Presumably, that rating is for a 100% duty cycle 
> This is my understanding, too. 
>
> Thanks for the responses, everyone. I think I'll stick to brushed motors 
> for now. Frank's points make a lot of sense to me. One more thing that 
> concerns me about the outrunners is that most of the housing I've seen are 
> open. That's good when you're flying a plane and want to use the air flow 
> to cool the motor. It's bad when there's dust and dirt everywhere and Will 
> is trying to shoot paint up my tank's ass ! 
>
>         - Doug 
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: rctank...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> [mailto:
> rctank...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>] On Behalf Of Frank Pittelli 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 3:09 PM 
> To: rctank...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> 
> Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: brushless motor questions 
>
> I haven't looked at brushless motors in detail, but from a couple years of 
> Physics in college I learned that when you increase voltage/current in a 
> coil, you increase the strength of the magnetic field generated by the 
> coil.  So, I suspect that the "RPMs per volt" rating for brushless motors 
> tells you how much voltage needs to be applied to pull the armature hard 
> enough for a given speed.  Presumably, that rating is for a 100% duty cycle 
> (i.e., max speed).  Indeed, the controller pulses the voltage for two 
> purposes (a) to spin the motor one way or another and 
> (b) to regulate the speed (i.e., decrease the average voltage seen by the 
> coil). 
>
> With regard to torque, for a given duty cycle, if you decrease the input 
> voltage the torque will also decrease.  But, if you maintain the same input 
> voltage, while decreasing the duty cycle, the torque will remain relatively 
> stable while the speed decreases.  That's why really big earth movers and 
> locomotives use diesel-electric drive systems ... 
> maximal torque across a range of RPMs. 
>
> On 7/29/2015 12:18 PM, TyngTech wrote: 
> > Can't say I truly understand the brushless nomenclature (i.e. KVA) 
> > because nobody ever talks about the controller side.  Brushless motors 
> > are basically steppers and without the controller are inert chunks of 
> > iron and copper.  What I don't get is the KVA ratings (rpm's per volt) 
> > of these motors.  In my mind, the controller dictates rpm by how fast 
> > it is energizing the phases, not by how much voltage is being applied. 
> >   Voltage would affect acceleration and torque or am I getting this 
> wrong? 
>
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