The cataloging cut-off point when it's either a new expression or a new work is 
captured in this slide from Barbara Tillett:

pg. 12 in 
http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/alcts/confevents/past/ala/annual/04/Tillett.pdf

Abridgements, revisions, translations are considered the same work but 
different expressions.

Adaptations, change of genre, dramatizations, screenplays are considered 
different (but related) works.

Expressions of works are considered to be "primary relationships" (Ch. 17 in 
RDA). Related works (work-to-work relationships) are covered in RDA Ch. 25. 
Related expressions are covered in RDA Ch. 26.

There are some subtle cases where a full RDA treatment can sharpen the points 
we're making about relationships between entities.

The following is an example of a specific expression-to-expression relationship 
(all expressions belong to the same work, even with their revisions):

Resource described: Bond's Biology of fishes / Michael Barton. - Third edition 
- Belmont, CA : Thomson, (c)2007
Element: Related expression
Value [using a structured description]: Biology of fishes / Carl E. Bond. - 
Second edition. - Fort Worth : Saunders College Publishing, (c)1996
Designator: Revision of

In MARC, a generic 500 note field is used: 500 $a Rev. ed. of: Biology of 
fishes / Carl Bond. 2nd ed. 1996.

RDA looks a lot bolder with its layered use of specific elements, although it 
does point out the tenuous nature of how works and expressions are strung 
together, since all revisions are expressions of the same work, yet different 
conventions may be used to string them together (identifiers, authorized access 
points, composite descriptions, structured descriptions).

That three-part structure in RDA (element-value-designator) looks like it can 
open doors to better machine-processing of relationships, as opposed to burying 
relationship data in MARC 500 notes.

That structure (element-value-designator) is a good pattern to understand 
early, because one can zip through the second half of RDA very quickly once the 
pattern is understood since the same structure is used for all relationships 
(person to work, work to work, person to corporate body, and so on). RDA can 
quickly become addictive I think, especially considering the staggering number 
of complex ways relationships are handled in MARC.

Thomas Brenndorfer
Guelph Public Library

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Aleta Copeland
Sent: April 7, 2011 4:16 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] FRBR

< Here's a nice visual representation of the Work/Expression/Manifestation/Item 
facets of the FRBR model I found via Twitter this morning: 
http://www.aurochs.org/frbr_example/frbr_example.html
>

Shouldn't all the expression just be under one Work, since the Work is the 
insubstantial idea that then is created as an expression?  For example, I would 
definitely want all versions of say Pride and Prejudice listed as the same 
work, then have all the expressions of it listed below that, with the 
manifestations listed for each expression.

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Aleta Copeland, MLS
Head of Technical Services
Ouachita Parish Public Library
1800 Stubbs Ave.
Monroe, LA 71201
318-327-1490 ex. 3015

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of runjuliet
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:37 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] FRBR

Here's a nice visual representation of the Work/Expression/Manifestation/Item 
facets of the FRBR model I found via Twitter this morning: 
http://www.aurochs.org/frbr_example/frbr_example.html

Only problem with it, to me, is that it doesn't link the novel, film, and 
screenplay together...

Amanda Raab
Catalog and Metadata Librarian
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum | Library and Archives
2809 Woodland Avenue | Cleveland, OH 44115
phone: 216.515.1932 | fax: 216.515.1964
ar...@rockhall.org<mailto:ar...@rockhall.org> | 
www.rockhall.com/library<http://www.rockhall.com/library>




On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Jeff Peckosh 
<jpeck...@yahoo.com<mailto:jpeck...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
I started panicking over the fact that I still don't understand FRBR. Can 
anybody please tell me where I can find a literature that explains what FRBR is 
in a simple English?
I also don't know how to relate FRBR with RDA. I would appreciate your help so 
much.

Thanks,

Jeff Peckosh
Public Library Cataloging Librarian


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