Thank you very much!

--Pam

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Benjamin A Abrahamse <babra...@mit.edu>wrote:

>  Pam--****
>
> ** **
>
> I asked this question before, and received a helpful response from Dave
> Reser of LC, that using terms in common usage (see 3.4.1.5) in the 300 $a
> is allowable.****
>
> ** **
>
> He forwarded me these examples:****
>
> ** **
>
> 2011311037  (CD-ROM as accompanying material in 300 $e)****
>
> 2012408410 (DVD-ROM as accompanying material in separate 300$a)****
>
> 2010615056 (compact discs in 300 $a)****
>
> 2010450160 (CD as accompanying material-- spoken word in 300$e)****
>
> ** **
>
> Certainly, I would argue that using "1 videodisc" instead of 1 DVD would
> be less helpful to patrons, as there is more than one type of videodisc out
> there.****
>
> ** **
>
> (Note--the 338 carrier type would still be videodisc.)****
>
> ** **
>
> b****
>
> ** **
>
> Benjamin Abrahamse****
>
> Cataloging Coordinator****
>
> Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems****
>
> MIT Libraries****
>
> 617-253-7137****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
> [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] *On Behalf Of *Pam Withrow
> *Sent:* Monday, March 18, 2013 12:53 PM
> *To:* RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
>
> *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Corrected DVD sample****
>
>  ** **
>
> I have a question about the DVD examples, and would appreciate some
> clarification, please.****
>
> ** **
>
> The Toolkit states "Record the extent of the resource by giving the number
> of units and an appropriate term for the type of carrier as listed under
> 3.3.1.3."****
>
> ** **
>
> Therefore, wouldn't we use "1 videodisc" rather than "1 DVD"?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thank you in advance,****
>
> Pam****
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Kadri, Carolyn J <ka...@uta.edu> wrote:*
> ***
>
> The link you provided to sample RDA records isn't working for me. When I
> click it on I get the report "page not found". Any ideas?
>
> Carolyn****
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
> [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod
> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 5:08 PM
> To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> Subject: [RDA-L] Corrected DVD sample
>
> Thanks to the Autocat poster who pointed out the typo in the DLC sample
> imprint, and the New York branch location of Planet Group.
>
> Sometimes it does take a village, and Autocat is one of the best villgages.
>
>
> Sample RDA records may be seen here:
>
> http://www.loc.gov/catworkshop/RDA%20training%20materials/SCT%20RDA%20Re.
> ..
>
> This is a sample DVD record:
>
> 007 v $b d $d c $e v $f a $g i $h z $i u
> 040 ___ $e rda $b eng $c ___
> 042 pcc
> 046 $k 2000****
>
> 130 0 Meurtre ... Hollywood, l'affaire Phil Spector. $l English.****
>
> 245 1 0 Guilty of being me : $b the Phil Spector story / $c Planet Group
> Entertainment with Pierre Antoine Capton, 3E Oeil productions, Panda Films
> in association with Sarasota Fringe Films LLC ; a documentary by Alex
> Jordanov.
> 246 3 0 Phil Spector story
> 525 France $2 naf
> 264 1 [United States] : $b Plant Group Entertainment, $c[2011]
> 264 4 $c c2011
> 300 1 videodisc (NTSC, 70 min.) : $b DVD video, sound, color ; $c 4 3/4 in.
> 336 two-dimensional moving image $2 rdacontent
> 337 video $2 rdamedia
> 338 videodisc $2 rdacarrier
> 380 Television program..
> 538 All regions.
> 518 Originally produced in France as a television program in 2009,
> reedited and released in the United States.
> 508 Director, Alex Jordanov; reedited by Melissa Matisko; photography,
> Guillaume Tunzini, Claude Budin-Juteau.
> 500 Wide screen 1.78:1.
> 520 "'Guilty of Being Me'tells the story of Phil Spector, legendary
> creator of "The Wall of Sound", his rise to and prowess in the recording
> studio, and final demise as the convicted murderer of Lana Clarkson, a
> Hollywood actress down on her luck, working as a "waitress" at the House of
> Blues on Sunset Strip. Phil Spector, The District Attorney, The Lead
> Detective, and others relevant to the killing tell their story. Extensive
> courtroom coverage follows the first trial from beginning to end."--Planet
> Group Ent website.
>
> The typo "Plant" for Planet is in the sample.
>
> [SLC clients would not be very happy with this record. They would expect
> us to do a Web search rather than guess the place of production, in this
> case New York although Plante Group is registered in Ireland.]
>
> [They would expect a leader, and an 008 with at least the year, language,
> and country. The would prefer 655 genre divided geographically, to 256 (DLC
> to the contrary notwithstanding). ]
>
> [The would expect both subject and genre headings, and an added entry for
> the director at least.]****
>
> 130 0 $aMeurtre ... Hollywood, l'affaire Phil Spector.$lEnglish.*****
>
> 245 1 0 $aGuilty of being me :$bthe Phil Spector story /$ca documentary by
> Alex Jordanov.
> 246 3 0 $aPhil Spector story
> 264 1 $a[New York, N.Y.] :$bPlanet Group Entertainment,$c[2011]
> 264 4 $cc2011**
> 300 1 DVD (70 min.) :$bsound, colour ;$4 3/4 in.
> 336 $atwo-dimensional moving image$2rdacontent***
> 337 $avideo$2rdamedia
> 338 $avideodisc$2rdacarrier****
> 508 $aPlanet Group Entertainment with Pierre Antoine Capton, 3E Oeil
> productions, Panda Films in association with Sarasota Fringe Films LLC ;
> director, Alex Jordanov; reedited by Melissa Matisko ; photography,
> Guillaume Tunzini, Claude Budin-Juteau.
> 518 $aOriginally produced in France as a television program in 2009,
> reedited and released in the United States.*****
> 520 $a"'Guilty of Being Me'tells the story of Phil Spector, legendary
> creator of "The Wall of Sound", his rise to and prowess in the recording
> studio, and final demise as the convicted murderer of Lana Clarkson, a
> Hollywood actress down on her luck, working as a "waitress" at the House of
> Blues on Sunset Strip. Phil Spector, The District Attorney, The Lead
> Detective, and others relevant to the killing tell their story. Extensive
> courtroom coverage follows the first trial from beginning to end."--Planet
> Group Ent website.
> 538 $aAll regions; NTSC; Wide screen 1.78:1.
> 600 10 $aPhil,$d1940$vDrama.
> 600 10 $aClarkson, Lana$vDrama.
> 650 0 $aSound recording executives and producers$vDrama.
> 655 0 $aDocumentary televisions programs$zFrance.
> 700 1 $aJordanov, Alex.
>
> [*If they do not own the French, they would want this as:****
>
> 264 1 $iOriginal title:$aMeurtre ... Hollywood, l'affaire Phil Spector.]**
> **
>
>
> [** They would not want 264 4 if the same year as 264 1.]
>
> [***Some would prefer:
> 336 $aimage (moving)$2isbdcontent, as shorter and better for display.]
>
> [****Since "videodisc" is here, repeating it in 300 is redundant, if there
> is a more specific unit name available.]
>
> [*****The now obsolete 503 had as deffinition cloer to this usage than
> 518.]
>
>
>    __       __   J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca)
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>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
> *Pamela Withrow, MLIS*****
>
> Cataloger****
>
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