My understanding too.
When time permits, it would be useful if LCSH authorities for fictitious
characters could be cancelled, and re-established as RDA authorities in
the name authority file. This would avoid having two separate authority
records for the same entity, each using a different form as an access
point. Same for real non-human entities (cat, dogs, horses).
I'd also like to see the same treatment for family names. RDA NARs are
supposed to be for more specific family entities, and LCSH for more
general, but works often have very specific family groupings as their
subject, and there is no reason why general and specific authorities for
families could not be established to RDA principles, and co-exist in
LC/NAF.
Regards
Richard
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To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] fictitious characters in RDA
As I understand LC policy, the 600 would not be correct and a fictitious
character heading in LCSH would need to be used (or proposed through
SACO).
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Sarah Stein wrote:
> Thank you! So, since this character is the illustrator then the 600
> and
> 700 are correct.
> Sarah
>
>>>> JSC Secretary <jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org> 4/30/2013 1:41 PM >>>
> Sarah,
>
> The 4th paragraph of RDA 9.0 indicates that the scope of person in RDA
> includes "fictitious entities, such as literary figures, legendary
> figures, etc." So, you follow the same instructions for the name of a
> fictitious entity as you would for the name of any other person. The
> context, however, must be that the fictitious entity is functioning in
> a role as creator (ch. 19), contributor (ch. 20), etc.; if the
> fictitious entity's role is only as subject of the resource, the RDA
> instructions do not apply.
>
> Judy Kuhagen
> JSC Secretary
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Sarah Stein
> <sst...@denverlibrary.org>
> wrote:
>
>
> Can anyone tell me where in the RDA Toolkit I can find instructions
> for fictitious character?
> oclc#730414273
> Professor Jonathan T. Buck's mysterious airship notebook :?bthe lost
> step-by-step dirigible drawings from the pioneer of steampunk design
> /?cby Keith Riegert & Samuel Kaplan ; illustrated by Jonathan Buck.
> Jonathan Buck is not a real person which is clearly stated in this
> authority file:
> ARN9385436
> 010 no2013005992 ?z no2013005083
> 040 ICrlF ?b eng ?e rda ?c ICrlF ?d DLC
> 046 ?f 18500917
> 1001 Buck, Jonathan T., ?d 1850-
> 370 Baton Rouge, La. ?e South America
> 372 Engineering
> 374 Engineer ?a Illustrator
> 375 male
> 377 eng
> 670 Riegert, Keith. Professor Jonathan T. Buck's mysterious airship
> notebook, c2013: ?b t.p. (illustrated by Jonathan Buck) p. 3 (born
Sept.
> 17, 1850 in Baton Rouge, La.; death date unknown; American engineer,
> riverboat captain, flight pioneer, and adventurer who invented the Air
> Paddle Steamer steam-powered riverboat dirigible and disappeared while
> on an expedition in South America)
> 678 Professor Jonathan T. Buck is the fictitious American engineer and
> adventurer who invented the steam-powered riverboat dirigible.
> This AF does not have the statement that is found in some other
> fictitious charactor as creator AFs e.g. ARN9436377 Richard Castle--
> 667 SUBJECT USAGE: This heading is not valid for use as a subject; use
> a fictitious character heading from LCSH.
> Does that mean that under RDA this is changed? The OCLC record has
> both a 700 and 600 for Jonathan T. Buck.
> I have not been able to find anything in the RDA Toolkit but perhaps I
> am not searching effectively, I have just started using it.
> Thanks for any help,
> Sarah Stein
> Sr. Special Collections Librarian
> Technical Services - Cataloging
> Denver Public Library
> 10 W. 14th Avenue Parkway
> Denver, Colorado, 80204-2731 USA
> 720-865-1123 ( tel:720-865-1123 )
> sst...@denverlibrary.org
> http://denverlibrary.org ( http://denverlibrary.org/ )
>
>
>
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