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On Jul 3, 2013, at 12:26 PM, "Joan Wang" <jw...@illinoisheartland.org<mailto:jw...@illinoisheartland.org>> wrote: Sorry, should be for authorized access points (headings). On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Joan Wang <jw...@illinoisheartland.org<mailto:jw...@illinoisheartland.org>> wrote: Use the abbreviations in table B.1[http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdaappb&target=rdab-399#rdab-399> for the names of certain countries and for the names of states, provinces, territories, etc., of Australia, Canada, and the United States when the names are recorded: a)/as part of the name of a place located in that state, province, territory, etc. (see 16.2.2.9[http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp16&target=rda16-469#rda16-469>) or other jurisdiction (see 16.2.2.11[http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp16&target=rda16-559#rda16-559>) b)as the name or part of the name of a place associated with a person (see 9.8[http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp9&target=rda9-5028#rda9-5028>–9.11[http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp9&target=rda9-5120#rda9-5120>) family (see 10.5[http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp10&target=rda10-515#rda10-515>), or corporate body (see 11.3[http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp11&target=rda11-4145#rda11-4145>). If you go referred chapters of RDA in the rule of Appendix B.11, you will see they all are for authority records. My understanding. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Liptack, Vanessa <liptv...@my.dom.edu<mailto:liptv...@my.dom.edu>> wrote: I'm confused as to why rda has an appendix for abbreviations including geographic locations.. Anyone know when we use these? I assumed we we once again using them for place of publication? Anyone know please clear my confusion for me. Thanks! Sent from my iPad On Jul 3, 2013, at 11:57 AM, "Patricia Sayre-McCoy" <p...@uchicago.edu<mailto:p...@uchicago.edu>> wrote: But in this case, there’s nothing to transcribe. The place of publication is cataloger supplied. Pat Patricia Sayre-McCoy Head, Law Cataloging and Serials D’Angelo Law Library University of Chicago 773-702-9620<tel:773-702-9620> p...@uchicago.edu<mailto:p...@uchicago.edu> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 11:02 AM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca<mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question Appendix B does not apply to “transcribed elements” (see B.4). The Pubication Statement is a transcribed element (see 2.8.1.4). Also B.4 instructs “If supplying all or part of a transcribed element, generally do not abbreviate words.” Bob Robert L. Maxwell Head, Special Collections and Formats Catalog Dept. 6728 Harold B. Lee Library Brigham Young University Provo, UT 84602 (801)422-5568<tel:%28801%29422-5568> "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842. From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Patricia Sayre-McCoy Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 9:52 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question Per Appendix B.1 state names are included in the “approved” abbreviations. And the LC-PCC Policy statement at 1.10.2 says local institutions can establish their own guidelines for many things, including abbreviations. Pat Patricia Sayre-McCoy Head, Law Cataloging and Serials D’Angelo Law Library University of Chicago 773-702-9620<tel:773-702-9620> p...@uchicago.edu<mailto:p...@uchicago.edu> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca]<mailto:[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca]> On Behalf Of Adam Schiff Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:43 AM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca<mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question Oops, I meant if you are supplying a place, you wouldn’t use a postal abbreviation. From: Adam Schiff<mailto:asch...@u.washington.edu> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 8:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question It would not be correct to use “SC” in your place of publication. If you are supplying a date, you wouldn’t use a postal abbreviation. Either [Charleston] or [Charleston, South Carolina]. Adam Schiff From: Patricia Mary Gierke<mailto:gier...@dut.ac.za> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 7:21 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question Hi Mary I agree wholeheartedly – ever SO grateful for this list ! And, if I may say so, I think your final decision is SPOT ON! I believe we are encouraged to SUPPLY a place of publication or probable place whenever possible….which is what you’ve done. And you obviously KNOW that the book is self-published because it is stated somewhere. Bravo! Trish Gierke (Cataloguer) Durban University of Technology Library PO Box 1334 Durban 4000 South Africa gier...@dut.ac.za<mailto:gier...@dut.ac.za> +27-31-3735458<tel:%2B27-31-3735458> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Saunders, Mary Sent: 03 July 2013 01:45 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question Thanks to all who responded. I have decided to make a single 264 1 [Charleston, SC?] : $b Author’s name, $c [2013] As I feel my way along with RDA, I am truly grateful for this discussion list! Mary Saunders, Cataloger Maine State Library 64 State House Station Augusta, ME 04333-0064 mary.saund...@maine.gov<mailto:mary.saund...@maine.gov> 207-287-5620<tel:207-287-5620> 207-287-5638<tel:207-287-5638> FAX ________________________________ "This e-mail is subject to our Disclaimer, to view click http://www.dut.ac.za/disclaimer"; -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409<tel:618.656.3216x409> 618.656.9401Fax -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
