I agree with John.
Consider each element separately: Title Proper of Series (2.12.2) Source: a source within the resource-good Enter it exactly as found, except for 1.7: Champs Numbering within Series (2.12.9) Source: a source within the resource-good Enter exactly as found, except for 1.7 and 1.8: 988 Title Proper of Subseries (2.12.10) Source: a source within the resource; with an LC PCC PS that points us to 2.3.1.7 where the common title and part title are on the same source, not grammatically connected-so it is good that the main title and the subseries title are presented together, as you found them. Enter it exactly as found, except for 1.7: Essais Then it does seem that it would be useful to give the authorized access points for the series relationship for both the main series, with its number, and the subseries. There is, of course, nothing in RDA about how to enter this in MARC/ISBD. So, you could turn to ISBD if you have a copy. Under 6.6.2 we are told "When the title proper consists of a common title or a series title and a dependent title, the numbering of the common title or series title is omitted. An appropriate note or the collocation of the numbering of the series and subseries may be given in area 7 (note)." And an example is: Geological research reports. Map series ; no. 3 Note: Numbering in the main series: 135. Then give series relationships for both the main series with the number and the subseries in separate 830. So: 490 $aChamps. Essais 500 $aNumbering in the main series: 988 830 0 $aChamps (Flammarion (Firm)) ;$v988 830 0 $aChamps (Flammarion (Firm)).$pEssais Both 830 will verify against the NACO Authority File. Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. <mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com> debo...@marcofquality.com <http://www.marcofquality.com> www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of John Hostage Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 5:10 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Main series & subseries You could have a 490 for "Champs essais" or "Champs. Essais" and give the number from the spine in a quoted note. Then you could have two 830s: one for the main series with number and one for the subseries. ------------------------------------------ John Hostage Senior Continuing Resources Cataloger // Harvard Library--Information and Technical Services // Langdell Hall 194 // Cambridge, MA 02138 host...@law.harvard.edu +(1)(617) 495-3974 (voice) +(1)(617) 496-4409 (fax) From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Dana Van Meter Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 15:46 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Main series & subseries I have a book which is issued in both a main series: Champs (Flammarion (Firm)), which is numbered, and in a subseries: Champs (Flammarion (Firm)).|p Essais, which is unnumbered. My book is a paperback. The subseries appears at the bottom of the front cover of my book as Champs essais. The subseries also appears at the bottom of the t.p. as Champs essais. The main series does not appear in name by itself anywhere on the book, but the numbering for the main series does appear at the bottom of the spine. My question is, as Champs does not appear alone anywhere, but only appears with the subseries title Essais following it, it seems that I would need a second 490: 490 1_ [Champs] ;|v 988, with Champs in square brackets, as Champs never appears by itself. I hesitate to do a single 490-490 1_ Champs ;|v 988. |aEssais, as the numbering appears by itself on the spine, it does not appear alongside Champs essais. I know that in RDA one is only supposed to use [ ] when the information doesn't appear anywhere on the book, and is being taken from elsewhere. In my case Champs does appear, but it does not appear by itself with the numbering, it appears only followed by the subseries title. The way I see it, the name of the main series doesn't appear anywhere by itself, or in conjunction with both its (the main series) numbering and the subseries title, so I need to supply it in a separate 490 and in square brackets. I'm wondering if anyone would consider that the square brackets are unnecessary as Champs appears on the publication followed by the subseries title? Thanks very much for your advice. Dana Van Meter Cataloging Librarian Historical Studies-Social Science Library Institute for Advanced Study Princeton, NJ 08540 vanme...@ias.edu