Tom,
Warren makes a good point that I'll build on here. Just because someone asks for a particular output doesn't mean you should give it to them!

If their desired gpd requires an extreme solution, Just Say No. If you have to add a large battery bank and inverter in order to achieve the desired goal, you have added all sorts of opportunities for lack of proper care and maintenance to lead to premature failure. There are plenty of systems in the less-developed countries that sit there inoperational because the money's not there to replace the prematurely failed batteries.

I would encourage you to run the pump array-direct only, with a tracked array of maximum, optimized size (1,200 W?). What the pump can produce in this setup is what can be done, period - likely around 10K gpd. To attempt to exceed this invites eventual and likely premature system failure. This just seems like the right time to apply the KISS principle.

My $.02.

Allan Sindelar
Allan@positiveenergysolar.com
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On 2/10/2011 8:17 AM, Warren Lauzon wrote:
The SQ-Flex can run directly from a high voltage battery/PV system, but with a battery based system at over 60 volts or so, you have a lot of problems finding a good charge controller.
 
So, even with the associated losses you are going to get with an inverter system, that is probably the only good option.
 
But I would also advise that systems such as that, especially those involving a large battery capacity, are very highly subject to failure through mis-operation, poor maintenance, and outright theft in many 3rd world countries, so if you end up designing the system keep that in mind.
 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV water pumping
 
Tom,

It can be done, depending upon how deep the static water level is and what additional lift or pressurization needs to be overcome. 

The SQ-Flex will run at highest capacity off an AC source, so I'd consider using an inverter system and grid power, with additional solar designed to supplement the grid.  You can run the SQ-Flex off a 120v source, so a single inverter works fine.  I run my Flex off my FX2024 along with all my regular household loads, no problems.

Size the array to cover the load through the longest expected grid outage (minimum) or you can size the solar to provide the majority of the power, and use the grid as "bonus" energy or to cover up for sizing shortages or the inevitable load creep. 

Phil Undercuffler
 
"imagine if..."
 




On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Tom DeBates <habite...@yahoo.com> wrote:
hello Wrenches,
  I have an organization in Haiti that I have assisted with PV projects in the past. They drill public wells and have a well (4" casing) that they would like to pump with PV. Problem (one) is that well will draw at ~ 20 gpm and they want ~ 25,000 gpd from the well. I have tried to look at every option I can and it looks like a battery bank will be necessary and an inverter ( 48 volt battery bank) to pump at the rate required. OOPPs, forgot they want to use a Grundfos SQ Flex pump, 16-SQF-10. The gird is "present".....very erratic and stressed, of course. They really would not like to stress gird further and do not want to add a generator. Yep, they made this easy. There are more details, but has anyone designed a PV water pumping system under these constraints and, if so, what have been your results?
thanks,
tom

Tom DeBates
Habi-Tek
524 Summit St.
Geneva,IL. 60134
630-262-8193
fax 630-262-1343


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