HI Ray,

I second your opinion.  

jay

peltz power
> On Sep 1, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Ray Walters <r...@solarray.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary;
> 
> I think it would be a waste of time to load test a sealed battery that is 9 
> years old.  Even at only 20% discharge, that battery only has 2800 cycles.  
> At 80% discharge, its 550 cycles.  The daily system cycle is probably roughly 
> a 10% cycle, coupled with the frequent deep cycles.  We have been seeing 5 to 
> 7 years in GTB systems with regular sealed batteries.  Even in float mode, 
> they don't last forever.
> Also the customer has already done a basic load test, and the battery is 
> failing.  Its only a matter of time before you start seeing cell failures, 
> and then the system won't even work when the grid is up.
> I'd just replace the set on your next trip.
> R.Ray Walters
> CTO, Solarray, Inc
> Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
> Licensed Master Electrician
> Solar Design Engineer
> 303 505-8760
> On 9/1/2016 2:00 PM, jerrysgarage01 wrote:
>> Wrenches
>> You can do a carbon pile test but the best way is testing under several 
>> conditions. Here is an option real easy and maybe faster, put a volt meter 
>> on each battery under constant charge conditions, higher volts on one 
>> battery meens high resistance in battery, low volts meens low resistance, 
>> either extreme can be an issue.  Then let sit for at least an hour with no 
>> load and check the volts, next put a fixed load on the system, again a volt 
>> meter check each battery,  here you may find a lower reading then the rest, 
>> there is the problem, now replace the entire bank not just the single 
>> battery. This is an easy test and the customer can see it easily too.
>> Jerry
>> 
>> 
>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Gary Bassett
>> Date:09/01/2016 2:51 AM (GMT-10:00)
>> To: "RE-wrenches (re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 
>> <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>)"
>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Test procedure for Concorde batteries
>> 
>> We have a grid tied battery backup system that uses 8 Sun Xtender PVX-2120L 
>> batteries, about 9 years old. The grid has been going out frequently – about 
>> 4 times in the past 3 weeks. When the grid goes out, the battery voltage 
>> gets too low and shuts the system down pretty quickly. One of the times, 
>> this happened within 4 hours. We want to test the capacity of the batteries 
>> and we have a testing procedure from Concorde that seems like it would take 
>> a lot of time. Is there a quick way to test the battery capacity?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
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