Peter/WrenchesLook at the Nlue Planet Blue Ion  batteries with the BMU, Thdy 
have a great Product designJerry


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-------- Original message --------From: Peter Parrish 
<peter.parr...@calsolareng.com> Date: 12/10/18  7:49 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: 
RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 
Portable Power Centers 
Thanks Bill, and everyone else: When I was a CA solar contractor, I designed 
and oversaw the installation of over 20 “grid-tied battery back up systems”. I 
now have an approved application into the Southern California Edison SGIP 
program, spec’ing a 16 kWh and 8 kW “smart” e-storage system. The system will 
use Li-ion batteries (the exact manu and chemistry escapes me right now). I 
don’t quite understand the relative lack of traction regarding Li for small 
scale remote/recreational applications. I understand a little about BMS, enough 
to be dangerous. So perhaps the biggest question I have is why NOT design-in a 
Li battery system as long as it come wrapped with a BSM? Any 
brands/technologies recommended? Also thanks for the info on 36 cell vs. 60 
cell PV modules. If I were to specify a system from scratch (and that is the 
direction I’m heading), I would go with 60 cell modules (even 72 cell modules) 
and a MPPT CC that can handle the voltage and current range. And thanks for the 
recommendation on AC vs DC powered refrigerators. I don’t want to handle the 
service call! Thanks to everyone for their input. Peter Peter T. Parrish
SolarGnosis
1107 Fair Oaks Ave. Ste. 351
South Pasadena, CA 91030
(323) 839-6108
peter.parr...@solargnosis.com From: William Dorsett
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 10:56 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Portable Power Centers Especially for this group of 
people, who are used to making do with resources as they come, there was a very 
interesting concept article in HomePower, Issue #186, July / August 2018, 
called DayLight Drive by Alexis Zeigler • Living Energy Farm, Louisa, Virginia. 
 
https://www.homepower.com/articles/solar-electricity/equipment-products/mailbox-daylight-drive
 The concept is in minimizing the expense of battery storage by using sun… well 
“DayLight” as it happens. I think the concept is particularly relevant to 
situations like you are describing and in developing countries. But also more 
to us as we look to the role of storage in general. Thanks for the thoughts, 
Alexis.  Bill DorsettFlint Hills Renewable Energy & Efficiency Cooperative, 
Inc.    “Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can” Arthur 
Ashe1715 LeavenworthManhattan, KS  66502www.fhreec.org 785/539-1956  Office 
785/564-2583  cellwmdors...@cox.net     From: RE-wrenches 
<re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> On Behalf Of Peter Parrish
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 5:27 PM
To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Portable Power Centers We are working with Turning Point 
Foundation a 501(c)3 to provide off-grid power for their River Haven project 
which is providing transitional housing for homeless folks in the Ventura CA 
area. The site is truly off-grid and currently uses propane to power three 
refrigerators and cook stoves. There is no space heating for the single 
occupancy rooms as of yet. But that’s another problem. We are looking to 
specify DC refrigerators and PV-powered battery storage for the River Haven 
project. We are looking at the Goal Zero Yeti-3000 system (3000 Whr, 500 full 
discharge cycles, to 80% residual capacity) at a sale price of $2,400 but are 
finding the extra cost of their PV modules quite steep. And looking at other 
36-cell (12 volt) modules, I can’t find anything for less than $1.10/W.  Since 
Goal Zero is looking at the recreational market, I thought that there might be 
other companies with comparable product offerings that are focusing on other 
markets like developing countries. Any advice would be appreciated and you may 
contact us off-line. Peter T. Parrish
SolarGnosis
1107 Fair Oaks Ave. Ste. 351
South Pasadena, CA 91030
(323) 839-6108
peter.parr...@solargnosis.com  
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