Good point Jeff, HOA could all of a sudden be a commercial demand
account. I think you have to wait for PSEG to tell you what they
allow. Every situation seems unique, so it is difficult to say what is
typical. They may be served by multiple service points. PSEG has that
information. I think it will save you a lot of running around if you
get into a discussion with the Customer Service of Distribution
Engineering sides of the company. If it is served by one xfmr than the
meter solution would be to meter onthe secondary side. But again, Jeff
brings up a good point. PSEG should be able to combine all 200 accounts
into a single account for analysis. They can tell you if demand
charges would apply to the master account, and if by increased kWh
billed in the aggregate, if that would push you into a lower kWh tariff
rate. Chris
On 7/5/2019 1:52 PM, Andrew Truitt wrote:
Thanks fellas. Todd, these meters are already on a single account but
NJ's remote net metering law only covers public entities 😠.
Chris, all meters are owned by the same entity (the HOA). We have a
call into the utility (PSE&G). We do not have experience in this area
so any advice you may have on how to be successful in this endeavour
based on your time on the other side of the curtain would be
appreciated. Would an entity like this (a community with ~200 homes)
typically be served by a single transformer or multiple? If a single
then the simplest / most attainable solution would be to re-route the
15 meter circuits to a pad-mounted panelboard / main meter on the
secondary side of the transformer, right?
Regards,
Andrew Truitt
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On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 5:57 AM Christopher Warfel
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I used to work for a utility and it is utility dependent. The key
I think is whether all the submetering customers are actually
owned by the same entity. For example, a commercial complex may
have several building on site, each submetered. The whole complex
could be master metered at the service delivery point. If so,
master metering will save in several ways, most notably the
monthly charge, but demand charges and possibly a reduction in the
energy charge depending upon the tariff can also occur. The
utility should be able to run the analysis for you. I would
request from the utility the details on master metering at the
location. This will quickly get you into their domain/processes.
Unless you have experience in this area, it can be difficult to
calculate the cost/benefit. Chris
On 7/4/2019 2:09 PM, Andrew Truitt wrote:
Happy 4th Wrenches! Has anyone ever been through the process of
consolidating utility electric meters for a client? We're
talking to an HOA that has 15 meters throughout the community for
common area loads (clubhouse, pool pump, lighting, fountain...)
so they're paying a fixed monthly charge on each in addition to
energy and demand charges. Consolidating to a single master meter
(possibly with sub-metering) would likely lower their costs on
its own, and (more importantly?) would improve the value
proposition for a PV+ESS installation. We're not sure if the
community is served by a single or multiple transformers yet, but
if it is just one then the process should be straightforward from
a technical standpoint. The interwebs tell me that some
providers (seems like mostly co-ops) are open to this, but I
can't find anything for this particular utility.
Regards,
Andrew Truitt
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