What ever battery you may decide on make sure it's both Fire rated and UL listed. I have had customers require this from their insurance companies Jerry NABCEP solar inspector Jerry
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 8:06 AM Sandra Herrera <sandra.herr...@se.com> wrote: > Hi Ray, > > We have been working with most of the leading lithium manufacturers for > several years now. Some have already implemented closed-loop integration > such as Discover, other we are working with open-loop integration with > Simpliphi, Fortress, Blue Ion, others. > > For the manufactures that are open loop, we have done extensive work with > them, which included lab testing as well as support with the documentation. > > > > I have personally supported most of the manufacturers listed above; this > includes Simpliphi and support of their documentation, related to the > Schneider Electric setting. > > > > With the Conext XW Pro we are moving to SOC for many of these settings, > that will integrate better than using voltage. Additional work of > integrating these manufactures using Gateway through Modbus communication. > > I know that at times it seems very simple to make a programming change, > but we as the manufacturers must look at the full picture of all the > applications of the product and not create a conflict. An alternative would > be a Simpliphi specifically firmware, this sounds very simple, but it is > cost-prohibitive, as the product would have to be UL tested again. Each > time we have to run a product through UL it will add to the cost of the > product. It is a balance between the feature and staying competitive. > > > > I hope this help to cl;arify, let me know if you have any question > > > > Sandra Herrera > > sandra.herr...@se.com > > > > *From:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> *On > Behalf Of *Ray > *Sent:* Saturday, March 21, 2020 8:46 AM > *To:* re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium Ion Batteries > > > > [External email: Use caution with links and attachments] > ------------------------------ > > > > We've been having good luck with SImpliphi, the pricing has recently > gotten much more competitive. As it's names states, its simple. Each 3.8 > kWh unit has an 80 amp breaker built into the top, weigh about 75 lbs, and > are a bit smaller than an L16 but with carry handles. We use an insulated > 2 pole combiner block to run all the parallel conductors to the main 2/0 > cable. No monitoring, but they do have an handy setup guide with > recommended settings, specific for each manufacturer (including Outback). > > Note to all: Schneider XW can still not set its LVD above 48, which > basically makes it incompatible with most Li+ batteries. Their tech > support has been abysmal as well. We're looking forward to them as one of > the larger companies in the business, to put additional resources into > their engineering, and come out with at least a firmware update to correct > this problem. > > Ray Walters > > Remote Solar > > 303 505-8760 > > On 3/20/20 3:59 PM, David Katz wrote: > > Hello Wrenches, > > I am working with some people that want to use a 20 kw-hour to 30 kw-hour > 48 volt lithium-ion battery with an Outback Radian and Outback FM charge > controllers. > > They are considering using Discover, Blue-Ion, Battle Born or SimpliPhi > batteries. > > Does any one have any recommendations of which battery functions best with > the Outback system. > > Thanks, > > David Katz > > > > _______________________________________________ > > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > > > Change listserver email address & settings: > > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.re-wrenches.org%2Foptions.cgi%2Fre-wrenches-re-wrenches.org&data=02%7C01%7Csandra.herrera%40se.com%7C407f988227f34589ec2108d7cdaf0650%7C6e51e1adc54b4b39b5980ffe9ae68fef%7C0%7C0%7C637204023926837446&sdata=mVLv8GIMSCiqeHDJtA8m%2FJg%2FwMERGJwbjx7lP7lhGOE%3D&reserved=0> > > > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fre-wrenches%40lists.re-wrenches.org%2Fmaillist.html&data=02%7C01%7Csandra.herrera%40se.com%7C407f988227f34589ec2108d7cdaf0650%7C6e51e1adc54b4b39b5980ffe9ae68fef%7C0%7C0%7C637204023926837446&sdata=t5SwVj95dd%2FXO1GtUfhzABAHwdEX8pSWjczoKyJ%2FmQY%3D&reserved=0> > > > > List rules & etiquette: > > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.re-wrenches.org%2Fetiquette.htm&data=02%7C01%7Csandra.herrera%40se.com%7C407f988227f34589ec2108d7cdaf0650%7C6e51e1adc54b4b39b5980ffe9ae68fef%7C0%7C0%7C637204023926847400&sdata=4Zt7UImDoQUWI5bkd19tkzt8YMEqxqSqlRvF5kSabBY%3D&reserved=0> > > > > Check out or update participant bios: > > www.members.re-wrenches.org > <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.members.re-wrenches.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7Csandra.herrera%40se.com%7C407f988227f34589ec2108d7cdaf0650%7C6e51e1adc54b4b39b5980ffe9ae68fef%7C0%7C0%7C637204023926847400&sdata=DF%2F6xHm6WSaXde36TVsfCsqU2h8Yu8wot2MNz49D93k%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. > ______________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > >
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