Hi Kent, Yes that’s what I mean.
According to the manual I’ve got, up to 52v for the low, 64 for the high. Which is high enough to do what the simpliphi needs. Jay > On Mar 22, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Kent Osterberg <k...@coveoregon.com> wrote: > > Jay, > > Do you mean: use the Aux relay to activate the Remote Power Off? What is the > low battery setting range for the Aux relay? I don't see it in the manual. > > Kent Osterberg > Blue Mountain Solar > > >> On 3/22/2020 4:04 PM, Jay wrote: >> Ray, >> Have you heard bought about using the Aux relay to control the AC output at >> what ever voltage you want? >> >> Jay >> >> >> >> >>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 3:13 PM, Ray <r...@solarray.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> That's the whole point: we need the LBCO to be higher than 48v to catch the >>> beginning of that steep drop off, so that there is still enough reserve >>> left to keep the monitoring and solar charge controllers in operation, and >>> avoid the dreaded dark start. With Simpliphi, we don't have the dark >>> start, but it still requires manual reset. This isn't theoretical, we >>> have been having serious trouble with a system because of Schneider's >>> inability to set the LVD above 48 v. Also setting the voltage higher >>> (lower DOD) extends the cycle life of these batteries. Otherwise, I love >>> the stable 51 volts of Li+, even under load. >>> >>> Ray Walters >>> Remote Solar >>> 303 505-8760 >>> On 3/22/20 4:15 PM, Jerry Shafer wrote: >>>> Wrenches >>>> Don't let the LBCU scare you as this battery has such a flat SOC line that >>>> when it falls off there is not much left in the tank. In addition set the >>>> flex net to low SOC at 15% and critical to 10%. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 12:15 PM Sindelar Solar <al...@sindelarsolar.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Specifically with Blue Ion, the installation manual recommends 48V as >>>>> LBCO, but also recommends setting it a bit higher: >>>>> >>>>> "Recommended Low Voltage Disconnect Setting: 48 VDC (~2-10% State of >>>>> Charge) >>>>> BMU will power down the Blue Ion 2.0 cabinet at 44 VDC (<1% State of >>>>> Charge) >>>>> Based on system discharge patterns, SoC and voltage correlations will >>>>> vary. >>>>> We recommend you err on the side of caution with a higher LVD setting and >>>>> adjust as necessary. >>>>> To prevent a dark start event, we recommend leaving a little reserve >>>>> “fuel in the tank”." >>>>> >>>>> I have used 48VDC with success, and had one system indeed shut down at >>>>> 44V, leaving 1% left to reboot. >>>>> >>>>> Allan >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/22/2020 12:44 PM, Ray wrote: >>>>>> Blue Ion, and Simpliphi that I know of. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ray Walters >>>>>> Remote Solar >>>>>> 303 505-8760 >>>>>> On 3/21/20 2:48 PM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote: >>>>>>> I see what you mean Ray. Sorry I misread your mail. There are not too >>>>>>> many batteries out there that need LBCO above 48V. Which ones are you >>>>>>> talking about please? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "we go where powerlines don't" >>>>>>> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ >>>>>>> e-mail offgridso...@sti.net >>>>>>> text 209 813 0060 >>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 11:18:21 -0700, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar >>>>>>>> <offgridso...@sti.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Ray, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Which XW? There are 3 now. The old graybox XW defaults at 44V LBCO and >>>>>>>> the range is 40 to 48V. There also was firmware back in its day that >>>>>>>> got older units updated. Schneider still has the firmware under >>>>>>>> discontinued products. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> XW+ is default 44V and adjustable 36 to 44 vdc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> XW pro is running downstairs and I will take a look. It would be my >>>>>>>> guess that it is the same as XW+. I think one needs to be sure they >>>>>>>> are in Advanced settings to tweak LBCO also. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am not plugging Schneider and have done work for both Outback and >>>>>>>> Schneider as well as my clients. Hope this helps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar >>>>>>>> "we go where powerlines don't" >>>>>>>> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ >>>>>>>> e-mail offgridso...@sti.net >>>>>>>> text 209 813 0060 >>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 11:46:21 -0400, Ray <r...@solarray.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We've been having good luck with SImpliphi, the pricing has recently >>>>>>>> gotten much more competitive. As it's names states, its simple. Each >>>>>>>> 3.8 kWh unit has an 80 amp breaker built into the top, weigh about 75 >>>>>>>> lbs, and are a bit smaller than an L16 but with carry handles. We use >>>>>>>> an insulated 2 pole combiner block to run all the parallel conductors >>>>>>>> to the main 2/0 cable. No monitoring, but they do have an handy setup >>>>>>>> guide with recommended settings, specific for each manufacturer >>>>>>>> (including Outback). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Note to all: Schneider XW can still not set its LVD above 48, which >>>>>>>> basically makes it incompatible with most Li+ batteries. Their tech >>>>>>>> support has been abysmal as well. We're looking forward to them as >>>>>>>> one of the larger companies in the business, to put additional >>>>>>>> resources into their engineering, and come out with at least a >>>>>>>> firmware update to correct this problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ray Walters >>>>>>>> Remote Solar >>>>>>>> 303 505-8760 >>>>>>>> On 3/20/20 3:59 PM, David Katz wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello Wrenches, >>>>>>>> I am working with some people that want to use a 20 kw-hour to 30 >>>>>>>> kw-hour 48 volt lithium-ion battery with an Outback Radian and Outback >>>>>>>> FM charge controllers. >>>>>>>> They are considering using Discover, Blue-Ion, Battle Born or >>>>>>>> SimpliPhi batteries. >>>>>>>> Does any one have any recommendations of which battery functions best >>>>>>>> with the Outback system. >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> David Katz >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 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