We are in Biz to make $$$$. I do not concern myself w/ what others or internet pricing, can you say AltE? You are a professional we have insurance, equipment , inventory & CE requirements. The client is covering those unseen costs too, as well as the equipment you are selling. We/you have to include the cost of babysitting, as you will always have those phone calls/ DOB equipment etc. I explain to my off grid clients that my pricing includes the inevitable phone time for a year. Remember some of the best jobs are the ones you DONT get! > On May 18, 2023, at 11:48 AM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches > <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > NAZ is an extremely well run company ! Love those guys! > > On 2023-05-18 8:42 am, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches wrote: > >> My question is: how/why is it that NAZ and the likes sell equipment for less >> than what I pay wholesale? >> >> On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 4:15 AM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches >> <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> wrote: >> Here is how I explain it to customers. Straight out of college, I was a >> financial analyst for an aerospace company working on government contracts. >> We did "cost-plus" contracts, which is what the client is essentially >> looking for. The government ended up paying too much for things this way. A >> fixed-price competitive contract is all the transparency a client needs. >> >> Another way I put it is that we charge what the market allows, and if that >> is not enough for us to provide an excellent customer experience, we simply >> pass on the job. >> >> No line item prices. The only things we might line item are permit costs and >> engineering fees for non-standard projects. >> >> Jason Szumlanski >> Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group >> NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP) >> Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956 >> >> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 6:56 PM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches >> <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> wrote: >> Wrenches >> Bottom line package price, all inclusive one number, I list all the major >> components inverter, modules ect. and all of what is included permits >> engineering thats it system cost, tax incentive, rebate (if any) no a la >> carte here sorry. >> But thats just me! >> >> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 8:11 AM Jay via RE-wrenches >> <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> wrote: >> Hi All >> >> I have a question about how wrenches are dealing with charging for equipment >> as most prices of most equipment on line at or below wholesale. >> >> If people are marking it up, how much? what metric are people using? I >> think victron might be the only company I've actually seen a retail price >> list for in years. >> Maybe it's just marking up labor costs a lot? >> >> I'm not doing all that much work these days but enough that I'm trying to >> figure this out. >> >> Thanks >> Jay >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> <http://re-wrenches.org/> >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> <mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org> >> >> There are two list archives for searching. 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