The Birdhouse was designed to meet NEC 2014 string level rapid shutdown standards. As the industry moved on to modular level requirements demand for it dropped and it was discontinued.
Sue Stankevitz MidNite Solar, Inc.<https://www.midnitesolar.com/index.php> (360) 403-7207 (XT122) [cid:[email protected]] From: RE-wrenches <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Blair May via RE-wrenches Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2025 5:47 PM To: RE-wrenches <[email protected]> Cc: Blair May <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery RSD Sue what happened to the Birdhouse. My e panel has shunt tripped 250A battery breakers that is acquitted outside the building. Tump Blair "Tump" May On Tue, Jul 29, 2025, 1:09 PM Sue Stankevitz via RE-wrenches <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Midnite does not offer an outdoor rated enclosure for our large breakers but if only 100a was needed as Mike was asking about our MNPV3 with an MNEPV100(100a DC breaker) would be outdoor rated and lockable. Sue Stankevitz MidNite Solar, Inc.<https://www.midnitesolar.com/index.php> (360) 403-7207 (XT122) [cid:[email protected]] From: RE-wrenches <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of MD Electric & Solar via RE-wrenches Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2025 12:46 PM To: jay <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: MD Electric & Solar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; RE-wrenches <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery RSD Wondering if Midnight solar makes something outdoor rated, with a typical 250ADC breaker, like this: Outdoor rated, lockable.... https://www.midnitesolar.com/productPhoto.php?product_ID=76&productCat_ID=8&sortOrder=5&act=p On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 9:39 AM jay <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Maybe if you left the key on a chain to open the door, and placard with instructions on the outside that would work? On Jul 29, 2025, at 10:23 AM, MD Electric & Solar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Correct, it does not have an external disconnect, but if you open the cover, each battery has it's own disconnect and the Sol-Ark has a battery disconnect. Looks like I'm in the market for a 100 amp rated outdoor, lockable DC rated knife switch. Mike On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 9:16 AM jay <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I had to look up that battery enclosure and if I understand correctly it does not have an external breaker/disconnect so yes the inspector is correct in the need for one if I understand. jay On Jul 29, 2025, at 10:09 AM, MD Electric & Solar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Here is the reference, attached. On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 8:49 AM jay <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I’ll let the code experts chime in, but I would ask for the code reference they are referring to. The only one I can think of has to do with if the batteries are on the other side of a wall. Thats as clean an install as they come jay > On Jul 29, 2025, at 9:43 AM, MDElectricSolar > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > <image0.jpeg> > Michael D Nelson > MD Electric & Solar, Inc. > 707-684-0064 mobile > 707-884-1862 office > www.mdelectricsolar.com<http://www.mdelectricsolar.com/> > www.facebook.com/mdelectricandsolar<http://www.facebook.com/mdelectricandsolar> > > >> On Jul 29, 2025, at 8:06 AM, Jay via RE-wrenches >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> What is the layout of the equipment >> >> Are the batteries next to and therefore in sight of the inverter? >> >> Jay >> >>> On Jul 29, 2025, at 8:44 AM, MDElectricSolar via RE-wrenches >>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Wrenches, >>> I have a building inspector in my county of Sonoma who has just told me >>> that we need to install a rapid shutdown switch of some type between my LFZ >>> battery bank and my Solark 15k inverter. He mentioned some type of knife >>> switch within 5 feet of the equipment. I cannot find any reference to this >>> requirement anywhere but he insists it is required. These batteries happen >>> to be simplify or brakes and Stratton batteries and each battery has its >>> own 80 amp breaker on the battery and the Solark has a battery disconnect >>> switch built-in. We do have module level RSD which kills the solar output >>> as well as the inverter output when the button is pushed. 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