Hi Mike, Take a look at the Schneider VHU363NRB. The installation manual shows a single break per conductor 250 VDC, but it may be (per MH forum) that UL listing requires breaking the ungrounded conductor twice. I would confirm with Tech Support. Pricing all over the map.
Best regards, Lloyd Lloyd Hoffstatter, M.S. Applied Solar Energy Inaugural NABCEP PV Installer Emeritus Director, Sunstruck Consulting [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 845-657-8132 (office) 914-844-3404 (cell) ________________________________ From: RE-wrenches <[email protected]> on behalf of MD Electric & Solar via RE-wrenches <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2025 1:49 PM To: david quattro <[email protected]> Cc: MD Electric & Solar <[email protected]>; RE-wrenches <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery RSD David, We already have an RSD system installed, it shuts down the tigo's on the rooftop and it shuts down the AC output of the inverter, making the home safe for firefighters. I can't imagine what an additional battery shut down could do for safety, at 48V DC nominal? But we must comply with the AHJ........ I priced (online) an Eaton 100amp 600V DC rated knife switch NEMA 3R, $4000.00....ouch Mike On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 10:41 AM david quattro <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I use the SolArk 12v micro-circuit that triggers RSD. hopefully that’s all they’re looking for, is to kill ESS and solar DC. When using plunger-type, or single gang it’s easy. But when they require a knife blade style switch it’s tricky (with SolArk and Midnite). This is because in order to deenergize ESS/RSD you have to complete the micro circuit. Eaton makes a Nema4 switch that can be turned upside down. that puts the red handle on the left side, which is unusual but I’ve done it, and I don’t think it violates any requirement. otherwise you’re stuck using an ice cube relay. Initiating RSD is easy, but getting everything to turn back on is harder. Feel free to call me if you want On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 9:46 AM MD Electric & Solar via RE-wrenches <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Wondering if Midnight solar makes something outdoor rated, with a typical 250ADC breaker, like this: Outdoor rated, lockable.... https://www.midnitesolar.com/productPhoto.php?product_ID=76&productCat_ID=8&sortOrder=5&act=p<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.midnitesolar.com_productPhoto.php-3Fproduct-5FID-3D76-26productCat-5FID-3D8-26sortOrder-3D5-26act-3Dp&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=p2tHyHEAjVe2zSh4C_236V4KkHnn0z0ynUvWz0mobds&m=e3r32MgTZSydpYcvZEf5GjAsFSzIKLzlaiVGhHlLSQMkeTZakYQjg8BqXKZz4Rma&s=XEfw4lTgk2aaJtiogmpB2fnxy91k3eB0x7svnLQEhPI&e=> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 9:39 AM jay <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Maybe if you left the key on a chain to open the door, and placard with instructions on the outside that would work? On Jul 29, 2025, at 10:23 AM, MD Electric & Solar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Correct, it does not have an external disconnect, but if you open the cover, each battery has it's own disconnect and the Sol-Ark has a battery disconnect. Looks like I'm in the market for a 100 amp rated outdoor, lockable DC rated knife switch. Mike On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 9:16 AM jay <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I had to look up that battery enclosure and if I understand correctly it does not have an external breaker/disconnect so yes the inspector is correct in the need for one if I understand. jay On Jul 29, 2025, at 10:09 AM, MD Electric & Solar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Here is the reference, attached. On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 8:49 AM jay <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I’ll let the code experts chime in, but I would ask for the code reference they are referring to. The only one I can think of has to do with if the batteries are on the other side of a wall. 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