On Jan 19, 2007, at 4:44 PM, Roland Voegtli wrote:

It's gotten a lot easier since version 8 came out

Better: yes, good: not yet. Still need to fiddle with /etc/ sysctl.conf and
shared memory stuff. Not exactly what I like.

And there seem to be conflicts with the Apple postgres instance for Apple remote
desktop, and the postgres user supplied by apple.

And this is just for starters... I tried to move to postgresql several times, and each time I spent hours to just try to get it running. In this respect, mysql is LOTS easier. But the licensing fiasco forces me to get my feets wet
with postgresql anyway.

I should point out that I'm moving all my work with servers and suchlike into virtual machines. The (currently free beta) VMWare for Mac works very well. And VMWare has lots of free, ready-to-go VMs configured for all sorts of tasks. Really nice thing is you can have your virtual machine all set up nicely as you want it, and then run it anywhere there is a VMWare virtual machine (and these are free for Windows and Linux -- with any luck, it will be free for the Mac as well).

You can also do great things like backing up the virtual machine before you try changing things, having versions with different options set up, and so on.

It may well be practical to deploy the server just by setting up the VM on your client's machine.

This nicely avoids such things as bumping into an instance of Postgres running on your own machine. The only downside I can see is a slight (with a non-beta VMware, typically only a few percent) performance hit.

Regards,

Guyren G Howe
Relevant Logic LLC

guyren-at-relevantlogic.com ~ http://relevantlogic.com

REALbasic, PHP, Ruby/Rails, Python programming
PostgreSQL, MySQL database design and consulting
Technical writing and training


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