I agree. I hate companies that do not value the clients voice. I wonder why we are not asked. Shouldnt our experience count?

As a new user of RB for development in our company I will say that the ONLY thing of value as far as RB is this ML community.

If there is no ML, we wont use RB as simple as that.

I get answers here in 10 minutes tops. I have to wait 24 hours for email support from RS.

This list is invaluable to us.

Norman Palardy wrote:

On Feb 05, 2007, at 12:08 PM, JC wrote:

It was your comment that maligned those that can't use the forums in the
work setting.  The implication was that we were somehow doing something
dishonest (I believe you called it a "closed loophole").

And yes as a paying customer I do expect RS to take my needs into
consideration.  If every decision they make hinges on 'folding' or 'not
folding' then its not really the kind of company I want to do business with.
How about customer service just for the sake of customer services.

If you don't think a few individuals make a big difference then I would
suggest you read The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell. If you're going to be pissing off customers just make sure it not the Mavens that support your product. It's a butterfly effect that will soon create a monsoon of trouble
for you...

I'm having trouble tying your last statement together with the issue of the mailing list. Yes they might fold if the product becomes less stable... No
doubt about it...


Or try the stuff from Kawasaki about how to create a community and the value of an evangelist

In one post he writes

Identify and recruit your thunderlizards—immediately! Most companies are stupid: they go for months and then are surprised: “Never heard of them. You mean there are groups of people forming around our products?” If you have a great product, then pro-act: find the thunderlizards and ask them to build a community. (Indeed, if you cannot find self-appointed evangelists for your product, you may not have created a great product.) If it is a great product, however, just the act of asking these customers to help you is so astoundingly flattering that they’ll help you.

And in this one swoop REAL has managed to tick off a lot of people who might be considered "thunder lizards" if not "experts"


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