Dirk Cleenwerck wrote: > People are just asking questions, I don't think they expected that > someone would actualy step up and ask specs. I also don't think they > expected anyone to come up with a solution. As far as I can see the > complaint is just that RS doesn't provide the functionality needed. My > personal take is that they don't need to, REALbasic just needs to enable > us to program that functionality ourselves if we need it. > I did offer my version of a "spec" as did several others: I use InfoPower and a dbGrid control. Should I just post all the controls and their properties/methods to the list? That's doable, but a bit extreme. Still, I can cut-paste from the InfoPower help file, Web site, or elsewhere.
> To be quite honest, I don't even understand the complaint. If people > want to display the data contained within a database in some sort of > Excel sheet, with all the functionality that Excel provides No, you don't seem to understand. A data grid, even those now available from a great third-party collection, are not like Excel and shouldn't try to be. I'm not looking for functions, user-formatting, or something like Formula One that's out there as an Active X for VB. Think of Access or some other database and which controls make sense to be in each column. In Interface Builder, under the Cocoa-Data palette, I can put a checkbox, image, pop-up, combo, image, and (if I code it) any other object within a cell. I can (saw a demo of this) put a table view in a table view in a table view -- which is something Access can do and InfoPower can do to display deeper and deeper relationships. I don't want a spreadsheet, but such a control could surely be coded by someone based on a good data grid parent. Business developers and data-centric developers have certain controls that seem to exist in every other RAD. That's the question for RB. However, RB is also more "general use" than VB or Delphi -- both of which push database, database, database, to corporate IT departments. If there is a data grid in all MS products, a data grid in all CodeGear products, and a data grid in most visual tools for Linux (Lazarus/JEDI comes to mind, but I'd also count the Oracle tools and every Java widget set), then of course I want one in RB. Where I know I can't expect RB to match what I want for now: splitters, tabs on tabs (pages/pages), killer edit field, NSTableView, NSBrowser, and a handful of other items. Most can be rigged, but that's never an ideal solution for controls that seem "basic" (pun) to a platform like OS X. Some users demand a very, very Mac-like experience. Real Software should not, cannot, be expected to give me a complete Cocoa experience and be cross-platform. At that point, they would have to fork every control so Windows and Mac bigots alike would have their favorites. I'm just asking that the lowest-common-denominator be raised. Then again, do I vote to kill bugs or add controls? That's the most serious topic I read here on a regular basis. - CSW _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html>
