Gustavo Alberto Navarro Bilbao kirjoitti:
Using the plugin OgreMax, the exportation to Ogre use the ".scene" format, but the better plugin to export from 3dMax to Ogre is the oFusion plugin <http://www.ofusiontechnologies.com/tutorial4.html>, and we have a big problem: oFusion export to Ogre using the "osm" format, instead the "scene" one.
oFusion indeed seems like a nice toolset for Max users for Ogre creations, but I don't know about the format - does it have some advantaged over the simple dotscene? I looked at the source of the cpp importer lib they have for the osm format, seemed similar there, but didn't find any examples of such a file nor documentation about it. Got the example scenes pack but they are only in .max format there and I don't have max so couldn't do anything with those.
It is of course possible to use the oFusion previews etc. and and still export to the dotscene format when you're done, for current reX loading. But you say the oF export is somehow better so perhaps that is not optimal?
I ask to the developpers is in the future is going to be posssible to get a "ogrescene import "osm" format, too.
The library they provide for loading is c++, and (probably) written so that it directly tries to load them to Ogre and not just do the parsing, so it might be more difficult to integrate it to the ModRex libs running on .net. For the dotscene loading it was possible to do a nice trick: give the c# loader a mock ogre scenemanager -like object, which actually doesn't use Ogre but adds the meshes to the opensim&modrex assets & scene instead. If that's not possible for the c++ code, if there is documentation about the format somewhere, would of course be possible to just parse it with new code that suits loading on the server.
Probably supporting one special format that only one tool supports is not a high priority for the publicly funded core development, but anyone who is using those tools and thinks they are beneficial is of course free to do it. And I'm certainly interested in learning what kind of advantages that scene etc. format possibly has.
Otherwise writing collada import&export support is probably in the roadmap at some point, also views and opinions about the usefulness of that would be interesting to hear (e.g. would existing collada export tools cover what e.g. osm does, even better?). We did dotscene first 'cause it was so simple and straightforward and immediately useful.
BTW the one thing I was doing in the little time slots that had for programming last week was testing local dotscene loading in the client (Naali) with quite promising results. Have been thinking of a workflow where you can first load the scene locally to see it as it shows in reX, in addition to an existing scene that you have loaded from the server where you are logged on if you want, where you can then choose to upload it .. using the viewer gui as an alternative to transferring the files manually to the server and giving console commands there. Will post about that separately to rex-dev soon (latest next week).
Alberto
Thanks for the interest and input! ~Toni
2010/2/22 Toni Alatalo <ant...@kyperjokki.fi <mailto:ant...@kyperjokki.fi>>Gustavo Alberto Navarro Bilbao kirjoitti: Ohhh. The 3DS Max users (i'm sorry but the Blender's interface is something impossible for me), are going to give to you a big "Thanks" for the improvement . this quick simple solution we have now for full scene import to rex (export from blender, max or maya or whatever) uses the .scene format (dotscene) that is used with ogre sometimes otherwise too, so the existing exporters from all the packages work - so that same tutorial that was written using blender in December applied to other packages then as well. .. so no 'going to give' in the sense that there'd be a reason to wait, but the tech has been there two months already ready for use for max users too. i guess we could have communicated that better, but also back then hadn't actually tested it from max yet. now one company has been using it from there and has also made some additional options for the import etc, and they are happy about it too. we'll start working on more options and gui tools to manage the scene imports etc. this week, will post when there is a plan .. orn wednesday or so. Alberto ~Toni btw the new Blender 2.5 refactor was exactly to address UI issues and allows customization, so perhaps good things come from there too :)€ 2010/2/22 Antti Ilomäki <antti.ilom...@gmail.com <mailto:antti.ilom...@gmail.com> <mailto:antti.ilom...@gmail.com <mailto:antti.ilom...@gmail.com>>> Hi and welcome We are currently working on content creation tools and actually the entire content pipeline. We did tests with scene import directly from Blender, you can learn more here:http://realxtend.blogspot.com/2009/12/tutorial-to-import-scene-from-blender.html.3DS Max import has been tested as well and we're looking into expanding the functionality. In general, in-world building tools are currently quite minimal. The base platform has just reached a certain level of maturity, making content creation one of the current hot topics, which again means that your experience and expertise could come in very handy in the near future. 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