On la, 2010-11-20 at 13:26 -0800, MasterJ wrote: > i already have a problem in build mode i don't know how i turn that > off but actually i can't click on ruler for use it i need to click > directly on the numbers (x,Y,Z) for mod them.
It's a bug in the release, thanks for reporting! We'll publish a bugfix release (again..) tomorrow. There was also another bug that Matteo noted: the alt-leftclick cam didn't work, that's also fixed now. The 3d editing one happened due to a refactoring which was finished recently (a few days) before the release -- the arrows/manipulator/3dgizmo is now made generic in the code so that it is not limited to only moving/rotating/scaling normal scene objects, but can be given attributes from any e.g. own custom entity-components for manipulating. For example if you make a mounted weapon that shoots to some direction with custom code, can use that builtin 3d widget to rotate the shooting direction. Nathan did that work and tested it, but it requires a new EC which accidentally wasn't included by other people who made the release build and no one noticed. Oops. I think in the future we could have an extended release candidate period -- now it's been just a day or two without much announcing, so has been just a couple of devs testing a little I think, so these have gone unnoticed. Perhaps from now on we announce them here and give a week for anyone to test? The next release is now planned to be 0.4.0 with a couple of major changes: there's a new entity-component data synchronization mechanism in Naali develop now (since today) for usage with Taiga 0.2, and the Enne folks have started to integrate their external ui widgets + menu + docking module. Let's see how these work and progress and make test builds available as soon as it makes sense. Otherwise most of the development is happening now in the Tundra branch, and if things work out well that becomes Naali 0.5 later .. which will ship with server module and support for the new protocol used with that, but which continues to work against vanilla OpenSim and Taiga too. If someone here doesn't know what this Tundra experiment is about, Antti blogged about it now in http://realxtend.blogspot.com/2010/11/tundra-project.html If someone wants to help us test the Taiga (i.e. opensim+modrex) compatibility of the Naali client in the 0.5 candidate branch (aka. Tundra branch), I uploaded a suitable zip of a windows build to the google code downloads on Friday, http://code.google.com/p/realxtend-naali/downloads/detail?name=naali_0.5.0-prealpha-with_uimodule-20101119.zip . That build is not suitable for using the Tundra server -- it does ship with it, but as the normal Naali GUI doesn't have means to login to it yet, you can't do any Tundra stuff with that :p Also this build does not have anything new compared to 0.3.4, actually is a bit older (a week before 0.3.4 perhaps), so is only for testing Taiga compatibility and not useful for any usage. There is one known issue: flying is either disabled or doesn't work, I don't know yet why. Antti Ilomäki here has been testing it otherwise and has found that otherwise things like webviews etc. have been working. We regularily pull all the new code from the main develop to the tundra branch, so everything coming to 0.4 will be in due time in the branch for the possible 0.5 too. If the client in the Tundra branch with the support for the alternative protocol etc. doesn't somehow work well with Taiga in the end, we have to start maintaining two clients .. one for OpenSim/Taiga servers and another version for Tundra servers. If this would happen, we need to bring all the server-independent improvements from the Tundra branch to mainline Naali .. especially the Javascript support has been worked on there a lot. Oh and it has a physics module using Bullet which we'll hopefully get to use for client side physics too (now is used only in server mode). But so far seems good, hopefully we can merge in due time (in December). For actual Tundra usage, there are already nice example scenes and application demos in the repo that some adventurous folks on irc have already tested, but as there are little usage info docs etc. yet I don't recommend anyone to try it yet. We'll see during this week when and how could make a first release with which it's easy to try out fun things -- I think we can do it soon, 'cause the tech is now there. And there's a bigger demo coming out later but that's another story. > MasterJ ~Toni > > On 20 nov, 22:18, Antti Ilomäki <antti.ilom...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Another three weeks and another Naali release. This time the theme is > > about great power and great responsibility with some flash thrown in > > in the form of basic flash support for the webview. From now on server > > admins have access to a feature that enables them to save entire > > scenes or parts of them, and programmers can include Python modules > > downloaded from the web into their applications. Full changelog > > available > > here:http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_Naali#Versio... > > > > Download the 0.3.4 viewer > > here:http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_Naali#Versio... > -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
