I accept your apology, Laurie.
Trudy
Laurie Forde wrote:
>
> I apologise for inadvertently sending my message to Recoznet , Trudy.
>
> I was expressing my thought on the matter privately---I fully realise that
> all these points about procedure are arguable and my approach could be
> absolutely wrong.
>
> Your reasons for resubbing me are of course your own as you have explained
> and I fully accept them-------my thoughts as to possible causes were meant
> to be purely personal and private speculation, and were never intended to be
> made publicly or to in any way question your motives, which I believe to be
> of the highest order .
>
> My apologies once again.
>
> Laurie.
>
> Laurie and Desley Forde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Trudy Bray wrote...........
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trudy and Rod Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 11:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [recoznet2] 4 Corners and Jabiluka ---For your eyes.
>
> >Laurie,
> >
> >Laurie Forde wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Rod,
> >> (snip)
> >>
> >> Thanks very much for keeping me informed and springing to my defence so
> >> rapidly the other day, Rod.
> >>
> >> I am sure that the nature of your early intervention got me back in" the
> >> circle".
> >
> >Actually, Laurie, that had nothing to do with it. I invited you back
> >because you agreed that the rules applied to you also even though you
> >didn't agree with them.
> >
> >>
> >> I hate seeing recoznet lose ground to an obvious plant like Karen and
> would
> >> have been very disappointed if her actions and my response had resulted
> in
> >> my removal from the list, ---I believe that the people on Recoznet may be
> of
> >> some help toward a just reconciliation over the coming years, and I would
> >> like to assist in any way I can.
> >>
> >> I think that there have been other forces at work on Trudy, from what she
> >> has said in some of her posts to me-----references to list members who
> have
> >> complained about my comments.
> >
> >There have been no forces at work on me. You don't seem to understand
> >that a list like this is made up of many different people with different
> >viewpoints and different tolerances for abusive language. Some don't see
> >anything wrong with it and others are very sensitive to it. I have to
> >try and strike a balance between this and keep things from blowing up.
> >Usually I try to do that off-list because I don't think public
> >embarrassment is helpful in most cases.
> >
> >Now, you can see this list on your own terms with your own ideas and
> >think that this is all there is to it, however, for a list owner it is
> >not that simple. I have more than myself to think of, I have the health
> >and good working order of the list to think of.
> >
> >This is the reason for the 'no flaming' rule. Personal attacks hurt far
> >more people than the one it is directed at. It upsets the working of the
> >list.
> >
> >This is not censorship but consideration for your fellow members.
> >
> >>
> >> Considering the forces of greed opposed to us, I think a problem exists
> when
> >> one person (Trudy or anyone else) can be subjected to continuous pressure
> to
> >> discipline or exclude a list member. Perhaps a group of 4-6 Recoznetters
> >> could make a decision if a problem arose, or a number of complaints were
> >> received .
> >
> >You don't have to feel sorry for me. I was not under continued pressure
> >although, I am beginning to feel that way from your 'faction'. There is
> >no way that a list can work being run by a committee. What you are
> >saying is that you've trusted me to run the list for over a year, put in
> >the hours and the effort, but now, when things are not going the way you
> >think they should, I should step aside and let a committee take over. As
> >I said before, it's not on.
> >>
> >> My own feeling is for members to simply delete or return to sender any
> >> messages that they feel are of an objectionable nature to them----maybe
> >> disrupters would simply tire of getting no result for their efforts.
> >>
> >> I am wary of any censorship on the Internet-----At this stage, I cannot
> see
> >> how it can work, and people still feel able to express their opinions.
> >
> >Not everyone can handle that much mail. Of course, people should delete
> >mail that they don't want and I'm sure that is just what they do. People
> >are free to express their opinions just as they always have. It is
> >expected that they do so in language that does not violate the rights of
> >others.
> >When did I ever stop someone from expressing their opinion, Laurie?
> >
> >>
> >> Anyhow, we will probably have a discussion on the subject if anyone
> comes
> >> up with a remotely workable suggestion----I don't think I'll put up any
> such
> >> suggestions at the moment:-)
> >
> >A workable suggestion for what exactly, Laurie?
> >
> >Trudy
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks again , Rod.
> >>
> >> Laurie.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rod Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 7:35 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [recoznet2] 4 Corners and Jabiluka
> >>
> >> >>[For anyone who missed it - it will be shown again at 1:00 pm today on
> >> >>ABC TV ---T]
> >> >>
> >> >>Forwarded from Christine Howes:
> >> >>
> >> >>from the Jabiluka List:
> >> >>
> >> >>For everyone who saw this excellent piece of investigative journalism,
> >> >>it's
> >> >>happening all over the country. The whole story with Kingstream is so
> >> >>similar to the way WMC rammed through Roxby and Heathgate's duress and
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>snip
> >> >
> >> >Yes. The program reminded me very much and very painfully of
> >> >situations that were common in South Australian uranium mining
> >> >situations nearly twenty years ago. It pointed very clearly to the
> >> >importance of shutting down the $ grabbing charlatans, whatever their
> >> >background, before they can take control. Most white people, very
> >> >unfortunately, will simply see the 4 Corners program as another
> >> >indication that its all too hard and that there are too many people
> >> >on the take.
> >> >
> >> >Cheers
> >> >
> >> >Rod
> >> >
> >> >(Truth is a road thats sometimes hard to find, but when you do it
> >> >hits you in the face. Dishonesty is a pathless land ----- not
> >> >Krishnamurti)
> >> >--
> >> >Rod Hagen
> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >Hurstbridge, Victoria, Australia
> >> >WWW http://www.netspace.net.au/~rodhagen
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