Hi Graham,
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From: "Graham Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [recoznet2] Aid to the civil authority
> It doesn't demonstrate the need for this bill at all. It shows that the
> current measures for dealing with civil unrest area adequate. And if you
> are going to posit a conspiracy you have to explain why 80 or so young
> refugees would put themselves in a position where they are likely to be
> deported back to their country of origin for the benefit of a government
> which is making it difficult for them to migrate.
Well...I'll be waiting to hear the suggestion that this response was 'not' adequate
regarding: the
13 security guards who were injured; the amentities that were destroyed; and the
non-protesting
refugees who were at risk of harm. Add to that the fact the protestors were locked
within compound
fences and ... I would anticipate an arguement put forward to simply postulate what
could ensue in
an 'open' public space. hmmm...Angry, locked in, refugees compared to calculated
terrorist
activity...well, what do you think, was the response indicative of adequacy if you
extrapolate the
potential?
As to the 80 or more young refugees involved ... what have they got to lose if they've
already been
informed they're not staying?
> I don't believe that there is any chance of any sort of repressive regime
> establishing itself in Australia in the near future. Where is there any
> indication that this might occur?
I don't think I was suggesting a repressive regime would evolve in the future. Moreso
suggesting
that intentional provocations are evident in the current Govt's performance record.
Hence I am
suspicious unfavourable forces are making a play to gain ground, and rather swiftly at
that.
> You might also like to enlighten me about this dramatic erosion of civil
> liberties that has been occurring. I acknowledge that both sides of
> politics when in government tend to take a tougher view of what is a
> legimitate civil liberty. For example Nick Bolkus tried to significantly
> curtail the right to political free speech and was over-turned by the High
> Court. And while the ABN might be a potential threat to civil liberties, it
> was Hawke who championed the Australia Card. But I have not seen any
> dramatic winding back, even though I may be uncomfortable with some
> measures.
> Graham
I appreciate your general optimism Graham, its refreshing. I used to be very naive
about the
potentials for political corruption in our country. Never would I have thought my
country would ever
go down a path of oppression, and I still have faith in the australian people to stand
together if
such a threat is exposed. My worries are that by the time such is exposed it may
already be quite
well organised and difficult to halt.
I found myself in a priviledged positioned just once in my life (once was enough); I
witnessed
backroom negotiations regarding a certain turning point in australias history. It
forever changed my
opinions of what is possible in politics. My naivety was stripped forever. It was
disheartenting, a
lot of people betrayed and intentionally deceived by those they entrusted negotiation
to. At the
time I had some vague idea of the potential future impact of this event but was pretty
well
powerless to expose anything. Things were well underway when I realised what was
happening. It's
pointless now as the ensuing damage is national as I'd feared, but didn't really
believe I'd see it
evolve. I won't elaborate further, there is nothing to be gained by doing so.
All I can do is simply share my observations; that politics is a very dirty and
dishonourable game,
the best 'need' to be highly adept in tactical strategy to obtain positions of real
power. The
figurehead and key ministers of a party are not necessarily the individuals with the
power (though
they take the public flak), they too can be pawns in the game...winding up bewildered
and cast aside
after objectives are reached. They generally stay quiet because they gather 'dirt' as
they roll
through the mire of the playing field. As such I don't point my finger at particular
politicians as
the power players. But I feel I can identify when certain unfavourable forces are
leading the game,
their strategies are relatively transparent when you learn to watch. Unidentified
international
interests aim to destabilise our country and do so via opportunistic politicians who
think they have
the mettle to play and survive. Most don't.
As to the curtailing of civil liberties, I think Trudy responded adequately to your
request. Keep
watching Graham, threats to the freedoms of the press shouldn't be far around the
corner.
What we as aboriginals have been through before, I fear we as australians risk
experiencing the same
again...albeit in a modern context though; but the result will be the same, and we
will realise too
late our disempowerment in our own home.
You strike me as sincere in your beliefs, and I hope you are absolutely right.
Incidentally, would I be right in surmising your sympathy for Frasers bold move? A
while back he
removed himself from the game, and I view his recent independant actions to be quite
courageous in
the larger scheme of things.
amiably
Suze
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