-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:56:08 -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote:
> > > from the infobot. This is clearly stated right at the beginning of the > > > infobot email and should be obvious. > > > > No, it isn't obvious. With it's faked headers, the message looks > > like it could by everything ranging from a virus-triggered message > > to a spam test. > > The headers aren't faked. The return path identifies me explicitly. > > Would having this at the beginning of the email be be obvious enough? > > TO XXZZXXZZXXZZ: > This is an automated response to your email containing the word > "unsubscribe" on the subject line. It is intended to help you > unsubscribe from one of the RedHat mailing lists. Ordinary SPAM/UCE looks exactly like that. Please put in your real name and explain a bit more about the bot. Consider setting the reply-to header to point to the redhat-list-request address. > > beginning that is a service from Jeff Kinz and is specific to > > "redhat-list" and doesn't apply to other lists (you write "from one > > of the RedHat mailing lists" which is clearly wrong). > > No, its not wrong. This service runs on multiple RedHat mailing lists > and the information in the body of the message is specifically tailored > with the URLs for the relevant lists. Maybe you need to read it more > closely, but it doesn't matter anymore. Sorry you were inconvenienced. D'oh. I'm not even subscribed to redhat-install-list. If you planned to run that bot on psyche-list and valhalla-list as well, would you add URLs for all those lists? How about making the bot send out specific instructions for a specific list? > > I replied to a message > > Subject: Re: Please let me unsubscribe > > on 25th of January (!) and received your bot's message on 20th of > > February. Useless. > > The service was not active on this list on Jan 25. The message you got > on Feb 20 was a result of a problem in a different area of a procmail script > which affected this service as explained in my prior email. It responded > to an email you sent within about a minute prior to the automated response. > The email you sent was incorrectly targeted and should not have been > responded to, along with about 80 others. Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining that. Another point where your concept didn't work, unfortunately. Your bot sent a _private_ mail which either makes it into my inbox or gets filtered out into trash, but your update announcements and explanations go to the list and are buried somewhere beneath hundreds of messages. How am I supposed to know all this? I didn't subscribe to any of your services. It is beyond my time to take notice and keep track of any announcements Jeff Kinz might post. I don't expect to receive anything from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> either. At least you could have excused in a _personal_ mail to those 80 subscribers. THAT would have been an appropriate move. And to make it clear, the idea is good, but the message looks like SPAM/UCE and the weak explanation is a hell of confusion for someone who did just reply to a message with unsubscribe in the subject line. Shouldn't be too hard to make it more personal. Also, it doesn't explain unsubscription via e-mail at all. Michael - -- Checking whether I need to update my procmailrc now... ;) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Vkux0iMVcrivHFQRAoHfAJ94VE3WCFLY4J8uiAzGGp8miWdfcwCcD1/T 45wMOxlVAW3kFd/bjUMuUmI= =fmUg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
