On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 21:30, John P Verel wrote:
> 
> On 06/17/03 16:23 -0400, Michael Kalus wrote:
> > 
> > Try telnetting to your mailserver on port 25, you can send the message
> > directly, no server on your end involved. It's all plain Text.
> I get this in response to telnet localhost 25:
> 
> 220 John.optonline.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.8/8.12.8; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:27:58 -0400
> 
> I run Sendmail to deliver my mail to my ISP.  Does this constitute
> running a server?
> 

John

I was going to reply to an earlier message of yours since you are having
trouble.  I don't think your mail is going through your isp's server. At
least the ones you send to the list are not.

>From the headers of your mail very ugly due to wrapping I put a line
feed between each line for readability:

Received: from John.optonline.net
(IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[67.86.51.46]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id
h5I2SpH08627 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:28:51
-0400

Received: from John.optonline.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by
John.optonline.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5I2UV3x001914 for
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:30:31 -0400

Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by John.optonline.net
(8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h5I2UVkK001911 for [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:30:31 -0400

I had decided that your isp's mx  must be john but now that I see your
post I understand it is not.  Either your mua or sendmail needs to be
set to relay through what ever the mx of your isp is.

At least I think that is not happening but I am far from a mail guru.

Bret


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