On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 17:33, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 06:30, Bret Hughes wrote: > > It will be interesting to see if this trend continues in > > the wake of all the redhat-config-* tools that make it pretty easy to > > get a box going even though it may be mis-configured and potentially > > less secure than it ought to be. Of course that is not to say I haven't > > been able to mis-configure a box from the command line. > > Even with all the GUI tools, I still find it easier, faster and more > efficient to do it all from the terminal/console - and being I'd much > rather know EVERYTHING that happens and WHY, blindly clicking on boxes > doesn't suit my style. For a GUI I prefer Webmin - a swiss-army-knife > that takes care of so much more with so much less...and then you don't > even have to be near the box in question to take care of it...ditto with > VNC... > > Plus, there is a particular "magic" of administering a box at a console > from the "end user's perspective" - especially if they're sitting next > to you whilst it's being done... >
Yeah I know what you mean. I built a RH 9 box for a guy here in Tulsa and he promply sent it to BF Wisconsin where his friend runs a small ISP. He has been amazed that the various tweaks we have need to be done did not require a call to the colo guy. They are porting over a php app that has been running on windows and got kind of miffed when there was no ftp server running until I showed them winscp (Now GPL'ed and on Sourceforge btw). Another box I did for a local church that had 15 winxp boxes directly connected to the internet with no firewall (Don't ask, got real important last Monday :) We installed the box with no key board or monitor and installed webmin for local admin. $200 for a fully configurable firewall and DHCP server. Boy do they they love the log report mails. It will soon be setup to prefilter mail before getting to the workstations too. Alot of this could be done with a linksys box of some sort I suppose but having a platform that can be built on for future services really tickles the pants off a lot of folks. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list