I tend to think it's not a bad idea either.  I certainly dislike the
'elitist' aspects of it as much as anyone but I don't think that "con"
necessarily overrides all possible "pros".  If the volume is too high (and
it frequently is, at least for me), then categories are just useful
organization.  The comp.unix newsgroups have long had comp.unix.wizards and
comp.unix.newbies, as well as comp.unix.general and in addition to all the
other comp.unix newsgroups.  It seemed to work well...  I don't think it has
anything to do with "dumb" questions and "smart" questions - it just let's
things be more focused.

I missed the original post though (saw 400+ msgs, nuked them, started from
here :-) ) - was it proposing a RHCE ONLY list?  I suppose redhat could run
that and limit subscribers, making it an incentive to get certified, but I
think it would also work as a public group with lots of negative peer
pressure resulting from "newbie" questions.  Have you ever tried asking an
obviously inexperienced question in comp.unix.wizards?  You don't get far.
But ask a hard one and you do.  Ask the easy one in another group and you
get a dozen answers.  Seems like a win-win scenario...

-----Original Message-----
From: Skeeve Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New Mailing List for RHCEs


The assumption is that someone who managed to qualify as an RHCE
wouldn't ask the the everyday newie question that fill this list.

Now this list is GREAT... I have told a dozen people to join who are
learning linux...

But the sheer volume is HUGE... and tracking useful threads is hard... 

I never said people were not dumb... and there are a hell of a lot of
useful responses here, a lot by non-RHCE's....

The only reason the list was setup was to have a less volume, 'proven'
higher level of skill than the norm.


Please don't take offence.

I would prefer Redhat themselves setup a RHCE list...

...Skeeve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark C
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 6:45 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: New Mailing List for RHCEs
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 17:25, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> > 
> > Sick of dumb questions? Are you an guru who wants to talk to other
> > gurus?
> 
> I know this will start a flame war, but where do you actually come off
> on deciding what is dumb and what is not dumb, just because you happen
> to have a RHCE?
> 
> If you are so elite, how come you are on this list? just here 
> to snigger
> at dumb questions not posted by so called guru's.
> 
> I wonder if people like Alan Cox, or Linux have RHCE's, I doubt it.
> 
> Just because people do not happen to have a RHCE, or some 
> other form of
> certificate does not make them *dumb* or less knowledgeable 
> than people
> like yourself.
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> -- 
> ---
> To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism;
> to steal from many is research.
> 
> 
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