I agree with almost everything you said.
Just have something to add.
Having taken and passed the RHCE myself..

A person who is a UNIX guru, and knew PC hardware well,
could take the RHCE and pass it *IF* he just had more time
to take the EXAM.

A person who knows RedHat on PC hardware extremely well,
might pass the RHCE exam, but not be able to impress me
as a System Admin.

There were several people I know very well who are 
*Damn-Good* Sys-Admins with 20 years of experience
and who can write GUI X-windows Games in standard C code
in their sleep that couldn't pass that RHCE exam.

There were also people in the exam with me who had no
real enterprise experience at all, but who had worked with
their workstation and home firewall on PC hardware for
a year or two and studied hard and aced the exam.

-Ben. 



On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 17:48, Jose Vicente Nunez Z wrote:
> Hello to all,
> 
> On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 16:11, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Patrick Law wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I don't have a lot experience in Linux,
> > > 
> > > This is a key issue. You will have a very hard time going for RHCE
> > > and I suspect likely for LPI as well.
> > 
> > admittedly, i don't know as much about these as i'd like, but one
> > major difference (i think) is that, until recently, even the *first*
> > level of red hat certification was tough to get -- that was the 
> > RHCE.  there was nothing below that until recently, when RH introduced
> > the ... um ... red hat certified administrator?  is that what it's called?
> > it's a bit more entry-level, for those folks who wanted *something*
> > official but weren't up for the RHCE.
> > 
> 
> Actually the test IS difficult. If you don't have experience, then
> forget about it. Better practice, get your hands dirty with the OS a
> couple of months and then take the exam. 
> 
> When i got the test i saw a couple of guys that only knew Microsoft
> stuff (and some others with pure AIX experience) and they got hammered.
> 
> 
> > LPI, on the other hand, seems to have more entry-level official
> > certification, and more levels that you can get as you become more
> > competent.
> > 
> 
> I don't really like this certification because 'neutral vendor's is kind
> of silly. I mean, if you work with Linux, you end using an specific
> Linux distribution (not to talk the extra work to maintain several
> different Linux breeds like Slackware, Redhat, Suse, etc together). 
> 
> I think the idea of the RHCE is to prove than you know Redhat very well.
> Being  generic is not very helpful when you have to deal with the
> problems of a particular distro (on the other hand if you use Suse or
> Slackware then LPI makes more sense).
> 
> Finally, invest your money wisely. Any certification costs money (time
> is money too), and a recognized certification  will be more valuable if
> is recognized among IT managers (no offense here, but thats the world we
> live in).
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> JV.
> 
> 
> > rday
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> José Vicente Núñez Zuleta (josevnz at newbreak dot com)
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