Oh joy. Dan D Central NJ USA
________________________________ From: Larry Rupp <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 12:03:15 PM Subject: Re: Dice-K Latest report suggests both Hill and Dice will have Tommy John surgery and Dice would be potentially available for second half of 2012 to finish off his 6 year deal. Sent from Larry's Verizon powered iPad On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:42 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: How is losing the World Series a wise use of money? > >On Jun 3, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote: > > >So, as a fan, you would be happier if the Sox lost the World Series , but had >a >lower payroll? >> >> >>From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>On >>Behalf Of Ray Salemi >>Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:15 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: Dice-K >> >>I consider the wise use of money to be part of the skill of the MLB game. So, >>just as I criticized idiocy in Lugo, I complain about money wasted on DiceK >>. >> >>On Jun 3, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote: >>It is hard to argue that $20M per year (including the $50M fee) is a fair >>price >>for any player. The money in baseball is just stupid. However, it was about >>the going rate for an experienced pitcher with his credentials at 26 years of >>age. Most pitchers have their best years ahead of them at that age. It was >>a >>calculated risk that didn’t work out as well as the team had hoped. >> >>> >>>Furthermore, Dice K was not terrible. 2007 was pretty good, and it >>>culminated >>>with a game 7 win over the Indians in the ALCS, and a game 3 win over the >>>Rockies in the WS. 2008 was outstanding. At that point, I think we would >>>have >>>all agreed that it was worth the investment to bring Dice to the Sox. At 28 >>>years old, who would have predicted it would be all downhill from there. >>> >>>And I revert to my usual position. It is not up to the fans to worry about >>>player salaries. The Red Sox are underpaying some players and overpaying >>>others. It all comes out in the wash. The franchise is a HUGE moneymaker. >>>John Henry makes a fortune whether he pays Dice-K $20M or $200K. Why do we >>>care >>>how much additional profit he makes on the team? Bring me the best players >>>and >>>bring me championships and I will continue buying the tickets, hot dogs, >>>beers, >>>shirts, hats, and season subscriptions to NESN. It is a win-win. >>> >>>I am sad to see the Dice-K era come to an end. I was always hopeful he >>>would >>>turn it around and fulfill his promise. >>> >>>Steve >>> >>> >>>From:[email protected] >>>[mailto:[email protected]] On >>>Behalf Of Dan DiBiase >>>Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 6:47 AM >>>To: [email protected] >>>Subject: Re: Dice-K >>> >>>Larry, actually, 2011 was his last year signed with the Sox, so he's >>>effectively >>>done. >>> >>>It seemed like a lot of money for ANY pitcher at the time, and very few >>>'experts' sounded a note of caution. And he was an excellent >>>pitcher in Japan, but it just didn't seem like his skills translated here. >>>Too >>>many pitches, too much of a 'backwards' pitcher, too stubborn >>>to use his fastball, too disinclined to get into shape. Ah well, it only >>>cost >>>the Sox money, at least we didn't have to send any prospects >>>away for him (although would they have been more reluctant to sent Casey >>>Kelly >>>to SD in the Gonzalez deal if we didn't have Dice-K?). >>> >>>Dan D >>>Central NJ USA >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>>From:Larry Rupp <[email protected]> >>>To: [email protected] >>>Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 8:36:14 PM >>>Subject: Re: Dice-K >>> >>>The lack of traffic on this topic has me believe either our group is all on >>>a >>>long Memorial Day holiday or just doesn't care anymore for dice - either way >>>it >>>would appear we no longer have to worry about him on the roster this season >>>however didn't we lock him up for 6 years - 2 good years, 2 bad years, this >>>season and next year? The pitching market is not looking good this year - >>>Yankees are already looking and have come up empty thus far and will drive >>>prices high for the limited pitchers potentially on the market. Settle in >>>for >>>some knuckleballs - and Salty having more passballs... >>> >>> >>>On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: >>>Looks like he will be getting Tommy John-san surgery, effectively ending his >>>time with the Sox. >>> >>>http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/06/as_daisuke_mats.html >>> >>> >>>Dan D >>>Central NJ USA >>> >>>-- >>>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>"Red >>>Sox Citizens" group. >>>To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>[email protected]. >>>For more options, visit this group at >>>http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >>>-- >>>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>"Red >>>Sox Citizens" group. >>>To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>[email protected]. >>>For more options, visit this group at >>>http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>-- >>>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>"Red >>>Sox Citizens" group. >>>To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>[email protected]. >>>For more options, visit this group at >>>http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>-- >>>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>"Red >>>Sox Citizens" group. >>>To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>[email protected]. >>>For more options, visit this group at >>>http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red >Sox Citizens" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. -- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"Red >>Sox Citizens" group. >>To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>[email protected]. >>For more options, visit this group at >>http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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