That's what Francona keeps saying, but if you're down by six runs in
every game, the bullpen's effect is marginalized quite a bit.

I believe they said on the radio this morning that the Sox have ONE
quality start in September. That's horrifying.

Steve O

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's a tough choice. The way some of the starters have been, Aceves' role
> out of the bullpen is almost irreplaceable.
>
> Dan D
> Central NJ USA
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steve Ouellette <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:53 AM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: "From the depths of Hell I stab at thee!"
>
> Dice-K is dominant compared to the LackeyMillerWakefieldWeiland combo
> we've thrown out there in September. I'd consider asking Dice-K to
> throw left-handed if it will get any of those guys off the mound.
>
> Honestly, is there any reason NOT to throw Aceves out there as a
> starter? Most of the games over the last three weeks have been over
> before the bullpen could help out -- and those that weren't were blown
> by Bard.
>
> Steve O
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well, you were half-right with the pitching. Glad we kept Beckett and
>> Paps.... And I still think that Matsuzaka was addition by subtraction.
>>
>> Dan D
>> Central NJ USA
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:55 PM
>> Subject: Fwd: "From the depths of Hell I stab at thee!"
>>
>> This prediction from a year ago is looking pretty good.
>> We did nothing to improve starting pitching and starting pitching is
>> killing
>> us.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]>
>> Date: Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 10:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: "From the depths of Hell I stab at thee!"
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>> This team, if we kept them next year, would struggle to reach the 91 games
>> I
>> predicted for them this year.
>> The injuries actually had a marginal effect on this team.  We mostly lost
>> hitters and still came in 2nd in runs scored.
>> The problem was pitching, and these problems were not due to injuries.  If
>> we go into next year with this rotation and bullpen we might, indeed,
>> reach
>> my prediction of 91 games.
>> Here's what we'd have if we kept this year's "dream team".
>> 1. Varitek -- 1 year older
>> 2. Ortiz -- 1 year older
>> 3.  Lowell -- 1 year older
>> 4. Wakefield -- 1 year older
>> Then for a rotation we'd have (League average ERA was 4.14)
>> Beckett -- 5.78 ERA
>> Dice-K -- 4.69 ERA
>> Lackey -- 4.40 ERA
>> Closer Papelbon -- 3.90 ERA
>>
>> This is a 100-win team?  What does this team have in common with any
>> 100-win
>> teams in the past?
>> Nothing, that's what.
>> As my friend said at the game today, "It's time to pull the bandaid off
>> all
>> at once."
>> This team needs a major house cleaning.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I want the same team next year.
>> If marginally healthy, then they'll win 99 games.  If average healthy then
>> they'll win 102 games or more.
>>
>> John
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sun Oct 03 16:14:25 2010
>> Subject: Re: "From the depths of Hell I stab at thee!"
>>
>> I wanted to take a swing at Swisher when he dove somewhat into the
>> stands trying to catch the HR however instead watched him lay on the
>> ground in pain while the guys 3 rows back fought over the ball.
>>
>> Great game - I'm not a Lackey fan however if he can pitch like he did
>> today for the most part next year, we have a solid 1,2, and 3 starting
>> pitcher punch already in place.
>>
>> -larry
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> But did you get Lowrie's??!!
>>>
>>> Dan D
>>> Central NJ USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Larry Rupp <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 12:12:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: "From the depths of Hell I stab at thee!"
>>>
>>> See you there Ray - I'll be manning the Pesky pole area for an Ortiz
>>> homerun!
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I'm off to Fenway to see if the Sox can put a final hurt on the Yankees.
>>>> It turned out to be a big game after all.
>>>>
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