Hold me Larry....finally, a kindred spirit. On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]> wrote:
> Agree that the rationale was (is) A-Gon had to go to get rid of Beckett > however I think we have blown a BIG opportunity to really be a powerhouse > in the ALE for the next several years... It's great that Henry doesn't > have to pay luxury tax in 2014 - but for a man individually whom paid over > $1B in last year's offseason (Crawford, A-Gon, Liverpool, etc.), I don't > see a 'luxury' tax holding him back. Now that said - if we have supposedly > freed up dollars to go 'after some big names in the offseason', what's the > point? We won't do these HUGE contracts again - so that limits our > abilities to be competitive in the market and therefore limits our > abilities to acquire the 'right' players to put this team back together. > > So where does that leave us... > > Losing Elsbury end of next year, gaining a more competitive AA and AAA > team - bringing up more younger players to grow from within... changes > that dramatic will take time and we won't be competitive in the ALE for > next few years. > > I see this trade having huge ramifications for years to come and I for one > am not happy that A-Gone is outta here (and Crawford too). I think we > could have come up with a better way to rid ourselves of Beckett than this > mega-deal. > > And we need Aceves for next year... :D > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Oh I understand the rationale. Just don't agree with it. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think Steve made the right point. Taking Beckett and Crawford off our >>> hands was hugely expensive. A-Gon was the only way to make it worthwhile. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm actually not a sniper. I'm generally a Sox apologist. I have >>>> difficulty in finding fault in most of what they do. >>>> >>>> That said, I didn't like the Valentine hiring, and, no, I don't like >>>> the trade. I think the Sox sold low on Gonzalez and Crawford. >>>> >>>> I went into this ad nauseum on Facebook. I know many of you aren't >>>> privy to that and I apologize. But I won't revisit the argument unless >>>> someone really wants to. >>>> >>>> In short, I think Gonzalez and Crawford would have found their footing >>>> eventually. These have been two exceptional years. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> So I can assume that you weren't in favor of the trade? Or are you >>>>> just in favor of general sniping, no matter >>>>> what the Sox do? ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Dan D >>>>> Central NJ USA >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Tom Salemi <[email protected]> >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:52 PM >>>>> *Subject:* Re: Wild Waivers >>>>> >>>>> Give it a day. >>>>> >>>>> I just hope if the Sox try to trade away Aceves they don't throw in >>>>> Jacoby Ellsbury as a sweetener. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Dan Dibiase <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You know, after thinking about this for a day, I am actually more >>>>> interested in this team now than I was prior to the trade... >>>>> >>>>> I have to admit, though, to being pretty pissed that A-Gon showed that >>>>> elusive-in-Boston home run power in his first AB with the Dodgers... >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Dan's iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 26, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> More like Burleson and Lynn being traded. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This reminds me of the whole Fisk episode all over again. I hope I'm >>>>> wrong... >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Larry's mobile >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Madness. You know why you don't do this? Because the Yankees would >>>>> never do this. And they win all the damn time. This is a panic move, and >>>>> it's not going to pay off. There aren't any free agents coming up that are >>>>> worth a damn. No Puljos. No Fielder. No Hamels. No nothing. >>>>> >>>>> We staring into the the abyss of mediocrity and you're all saying, >>>>> JUMP IN. The losing is fine.... >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dump all the high paid free agents and start over. >>>>> >>>>> I'm happy to dump A-Gon. He's not hitting as well as our rookies. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If they dump and A-Gon, then what the hell are we doing here? >>>>> >>>>> Let's not get crazy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Too bad they pulled A-Gon back. I would have been happy to see all >>>>> that salary money leave the Sox. >>>>> >>>>> I pray they don't make the same mistake with Beckett. >>>>> >>>>> Have them both and good luck! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dodgers claim A-Gon and Beckett. Sox have pulled back A-Gon, but maybe >>>>> let Beckett go (if he approves)...? 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