Just as an aside, the Herald says the Dodgers originally wanted Beckett (like actually wanted him) and offered to take on his salary and Lackeys if the Sox included Gonzalez.
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > Hold me Larry....finally, a kindred spirit. > > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Agree that the rationale was (is) A-Gon had to go to get rid of Beckett >> however I think we have blown a BIG opportunity to really be a powerhouse >> in the ALE for the next several years... It's great that Henry doesn't >> have to pay luxury tax in 2014 - but for a man individually whom paid over >> $1B in last year's offseason (Crawford, A-Gon, Liverpool, etc.), I don't >> see a 'luxury' tax holding him back. Now that said - if we have supposedly >> freed up dollars to go 'after some big names in the offseason', what's the >> point? We won't do these HUGE contracts again - so that limits our >> abilities to be competitive in the market and therefore limits our >> abilities to acquire the 'right' players to put this team back together. >> >> So where does that leave us... >> >> Losing Elsbury end of next year, gaining a more competitive AA and AAA >> team - bringing up more younger players to grow from within... changes >> that dramatic will take time and we won't be competitive in the ALE for >> next few years. >> >> I see this trade having huge ramifications for years to come and I for >> one am not happy that A-Gone is outta here (and Crawford too). I think we >> could have come up with a better way to rid ourselves of Beckett than this >> mega-deal. >> >> And we need Aceves for next year... :D >> >> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Oh I understand the rationale. Just don't agree with it. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I think Steve made the right point. Taking Beckett and Crawford off >>>> our hands was hugely expensive. A-Gon was the only way to make it >>>> worthwhile. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm actually not a sniper. I'm generally a Sox apologist. I have >>>>> difficulty in finding fault in most of what they do. >>>>> >>>>> That said, I didn't like the Valentine hiring, and, no, I don't like >>>>> the trade. I think the Sox sold low on Gonzalez and Crawford. >>>>> >>>>> I went into this ad nauseum on Facebook. I know many of you aren't >>>>> privy to that and I apologize. But I won't revisit the argument unless >>>>> someone really wants to. >>>>> >>>>> In short, I think Gonzalez and Crawford would have found their footing >>>>> eventually. These have been two exceptional years. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So I can assume that you weren't in favor of the trade? Or are you >>>>>> just in favor of general sniping, no matter >>>>>> what the Sox do? ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Dan D >>>>>> Central NJ USA >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From:* Tom Salemi <[email protected]> >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:52 PM >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Wild Waivers >>>>>> >>>>>> Give it a day. >>>>>> >>>>>> I just hope if the Sox try to trade away Aceves they don't throw in >>>>>> Jacoby Ellsbury as a sweetener. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Dan Dibiase <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> You know, after thinking about this for a day, I am actually more >>>>>> interested in this team now than I was prior to the trade... >>>>>> >>>>>> I have to admit, though, to being pretty pissed that A-Gon showed >>>>>> that elusive-in-Boston home run power in his first AB with the Dodgers... >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Dan's iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 26, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> More like Burleson and Lynn being traded. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This reminds me of the whole Fisk episode all over again. I hope I'm >>>>>> wrong... >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Larry's mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Madness. You know why you don't do this? Because the Yankees would >>>>>> never do this. And they win all the damn time. This is a panic move, and >>>>>> it's not going to pay off. There aren't any free agents coming up that >>>>>> are >>>>>> worth a damn. No Puljos. No Fielder. No Hamels. No nothing. >>>>>> >>>>>> We staring into the the abyss of mediocrity and you're all saying, >>>>>> JUMP IN. The losing is fine.... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dump all the high paid free agents and start over. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm happy to dump A-Gon. He's not hitting as well as our rookies. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> If they dump and A-Gon, then what the hell are we doing here? >>>>>> >>>>>> Let's not get crazy. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Too bad they pulled A-Gon back. I would have been happy to see all >>>>>> that salary money leave the Sox. >>>>>> >>>>>> I pray they don't make the same mistake with Beckett. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have them both and good luck! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dodgers claim A-Gon and Beckett. Sox have pulled back A-Gon, but >>>>>> maybe let Beckett go (if he approves)...? 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