Didn't say that. I'm just not sure why the sox were so fixated on a guy on a path to be fired or at least not renewed by his own team.
Anyway, not worth arguing over. On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > Why. They had a contract. That means nothing? > > > On Oct 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > I would have resented sending Toronto a dozen Dunkin Donuts. Seems wrong. > > > But I'm glad they resolved it quickly. > > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Aviles? There are at least 20 Aviles's out there. >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I agree - Farrell will be good for us however we should NOT have given >>> up Aviles for him. We got yet another Carpenter pitcher in return (can you >>> say Theo trade?) - I think someone in FO keeps thinking it's "THE" >>> Carpenter rather than just another Carpenter. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I honestly don't know how I feel about it. I'm happy we have a manager. >>>> I'm happy we have Farrell. I'm not really disappointed about losing Aviles. >>>> But I resent having to give him up for a mediocre manager. >>>> >>>> But I'm glad it's over. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well..Aviles was no Scutaro. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Forsooth. >>>>>> >>>>>> So another year where we dump out starting shortstop. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dan D >>>>>> Central NJ USA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From:* Ray Daniel Salemi <[email protected]> >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 21, 2012 2:41 PM >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: John Farrell Named Red Sox Manager >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Huh >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: "Red Sox Ticket Office" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Oct 21, 2012 2:06 PM >>>>>> Subject: John Farrell Named Red Sox Manager >>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> Click >>>>>> here<http://link.redsox.com/m/1/95601068/b29512-b37917c0-e484-421b-8e52-5b0a0a285206/11/173/de52b46c-f147-4624-a858-6b8ea5a53511>if >>>>>> you are having trouble viewing this message. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Season Ticket Holders, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It is my great pleasure to let you know that John Farrell has >>>>>> officially been named the next manager of the Boston Red Sox. We are >>>>>> thrilled to welcome John back to the Red Sox family. Please see the >>>>>> release >>>>>> below with complete details. >>>>>> >>>>>> We will host a conference call with John and season ticket holders >>>>>> in the coming weeks so John can personally share his vision for leading >>>>>> this team. We will provide further information including the date and >>>>>> time >>>>>> for that call as soon as it is confirmed. >>>>>> >>>>>> We hope you are as excited as we are for the next chapter of Red >>>>>> Sox baseball. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sam Kennedy >>>>>> >>>>>> Chief Operating Officer >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *RED SOX NAME JOHN FARRELL MANAGER* >>>>>> *Mike Aviles sent to Toronto; * >>>>>> *Red Sox receive right-hander David Carpenter* >>>>>> >>>>>> BOSTON, MA -- The Boston Red Sox today announced that they have >>>>>> acquired Manager John Farrell from the Toronto Blue Jays and agreed to a >>>>>> three-year contract that will run through 2015. As compensation to the >>>>>> Blue Jays, to whom Farrell was under contract through 2013, the Red Sox >>>>>> sent shortstop Mike Aviles and received in return right-handed pitcher >>>>>> David Carpenter. The Red Sox sought and received permission from Toronto >>>>>> to talk directly to Farrell and made the agreement late last night. >>>>>> >>>>>> Farrell, 50, was the Red Sox’ pitching coach from 2007-10, a period >>>>>> in which the staff held opponents to an American League-low .254 batting >>>>>> average and led the league in strikeouts (4,771). Farrell is the seventh >>>>>> manager in major league history acquired by one club while under contract >>>>>> to another. >>>>>> >>>>>> “I’m extremely excited to be returning to the Red Sox and to Boston,” >>>>>> said Farrell. “I love this organization. It’s a great franchise in a >>>>>> special city and region, with great fans, and we want nothing more than >>>>>> to >>>>>> reward their faith in us.” >>>>>> >>>>>> “We are thrilled to name John Farrell as our new manager,” said >>>>>> Executive Vice-President/General Manager Ben Cherington, who made the >>>>>> announcement. “John has been a major league pitcher, front office >>>>>> executive, coach, and manager. His broad set of experiences, and >>>>>> exceptional leadership skills, make him the ideal person to lead our >>>>>> team. >>>>>> I have known him in various capacities throughout my career, and I hold >>>>>> him >>>>>> in the highest regard as a baseball man and as a person.” >>>>>> >>>>>> Under Farrell, the Blue Jays finished 81-81 (.500) in 2011 and 73-89 >>>>>> (.451) in 2012. Prior to joining the Red Sox in 2007, Farrell spent five >>>>>> years as Director of Player Development for the Cleveland Indians >>>>>> (November, 2001-November, 2006). The Indians earned “Organization of the >>>>>> Year” honors in 2003 and 2004 from *USA Today’s Sports Weekly* and >>>>>> were named by *Baseball America* as the top farm system in 2003. >>>>>> >>>>>> “We met some outstanding managerial candidates in this process,” said >>>>>> Red Sox President/CEO Larry Lucchino. “John Farrell brings a unique >>>>>> blend >>>>>> of managerial experience, leadership and presence, pitching expertise, >>>>>> front office experience, and an established track record with many >>>>>> members >>>>>> of our uniformed staff and members of our front office. He will hit the >>>>>> ground running.” >>>>>> >>>>>> When Farrell was Boston’s pitching coach, right-hander Clay Buchholz >>>>>> and southpaw Jon Lester were All-Stars. In his first year with the Red >>>>>> Sox, the club won the 2007 World Series. They reached the postseason >>>>>> each >>>>>> of his first three seasons in Boston. >>>>>> >>>>>> Compensation to acquire a manager from another club has been required >>>>>> four times previously, and 52 years ago, two managers were traded for >>>>>> each >>>>>> other. In September, 2011, Miami acquired Ozzie Guillen and right-hander >>>>>> Ricardo Andres from the White Sox and sent right-hander Jhan Marinez and >>>>>> infielder Ozzie Martinez. In October, 2002, Tampa Bay acquired Lou >>>>>> Piniella and infielder Antonio Perez from Seattle and sent outfielder >>>>>> Randy >>>>>> Winn. In November, 1976, Pittsburgh acquired Chuck Tanner and cash from >>>>>> Oakland and sent catcher Manny Sanguillen. In November, 1967, the Mets >>>>>> acquired Gil Hodges from Washington and sent right-hander Bill Denehy and >>>>>> cash. During the 1960 season, managers Joe Gordon and Jimmy Dykes were >>>>>> swapped by Cleveland and Detroit, respectively. >>>>>> >>>>>> In Farrell’s first year as the Red Sox’ pitching coach, the staff led >>>>>> the American League with a 3.87 ERA (618 ER/1,438.2 IP). Red Sox >>>>>> pitchers >>>>>> also led the AL in strikeouts with 1,185 in 2008 and 1,207 in 2010. From >>>>>> 2007-10, hurlers posted the third-best ERA in the league, 4.11 (2,637 >>>>>> ER/5,778.1 IP). >>>>>> >>>>>> Aviles, 31, played 136 games for the Red Sox in 2012, primarily at >>>>>> shortstop (128 games). He hit .250 with 13 home runs and 60 RBI. >>>>>> >>>>>> Carpenter, 27, has struck out 60 in 60 innings over 67 career major >>>>>> league games, all in relief, with the Astros (2011-12) and Blue Jays >>>>>> (2012). 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