Exactly On Oct 21, 2012 11:30 PM, "Ray Daniel Salemi" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree with your ambivalence. > > It's just that I felt equally ambivalent about Aviles. > > So I don't know what to feel. > > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Didn't say that. I'm just not sure why the sox were so fixated on a guy >> on a path to be fired or at least not renewed by his own team. >> >> Anyway, not worth arguing over. >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Why. They had a contract. That means nothing? >>> >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I would have resented sending Toronto a dozen Dunkin Donuts. Seems wrong. >>> >>> >>> But I'm glad they resolved it quickly. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Aviles? There are at least 20 Aviles's out there. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree - Farrell will be good for us however we should NOT have given >>>>> up Aviles for him. We got yet another Carpenter pitcher in return (can >>>>> you >>>>> say Theo trade?) - I think someone in FO keeps thinking it's "THE" >>>>> Carpenter rather than just another Carpenter. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I honestly don't know how I feel about it. I'm happy we have a >>>>>> manager. I'm happy we have Farrell. I'm not really disappointed about >>>>>> losing Aviles. But I resent having to give him up for a mediocre manager. >>>>>> >>>>>> But I'm glad it's over. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well..Aviles was no Scutaro. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Forsooth. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So another year where we dump out starting shortstop. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dan D >>>>>>>> Central NJ USA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> *From:* Ray Daniel Salemi <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 21, 2012 2:41 PM >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: John Farrell Named Red Sox Manager >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Indeed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Huh >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>> From: "Red Sox Ticket Office" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: Oct 21, 2012 2:06 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: John Farrell Named Red Sox Manager >>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Click >>>>>>>> here<http://link.redsox.com/m/1/95601068/b29512-b37917c0-e484-421b-8e52-5b0a0a285206/11/173/de52b46c-f147-4624-a858-6b8ea5a53511>if >>>>>>>> you are having trouble viewing this message. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Season Ticket Holders, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is my great pleasure to let you know that John Farrell has >>>>>>>> officially been named the next manager of the Boston Red Sox. We are >>>>>>>> thrilled to welcome John back to the Red Sox family. Please see the >>>>>>>> release >>>>>>>> below with complete details. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We will host a conference call with John and season ticket >>>>>>>> holders in the coming weeks so John can personally share his vision for >>>>>>>> leading this team. We will provide further information including the >>>>>>>> date >>>>>>>> and time for that call as soon as it is confirmed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We hope you are as excited as we are for the next chapter of Red >>>>>>>> Sox baseball. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sam Kennedy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chief Operating Officer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *RED SOX NAME JOHN FARRELL MANAGER* >>>>>>>> *Mike Aviles sent to Toronto; * >>>>>>>> *Red Sox receive right-hander David Carpenter* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BOSTON, MA -- The Boston Red Sox today announced that they have >>>>>>>> acquired Manager John Farrell from the Toronto Blue Jays and agreed to >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> three-year contract that will run through 2015. As compensation to the >>>>>>>> Blue Jays, to whom Farrell was under contract through 2013, the Red Sox >>>>>>>> sent shortstop Mike Aviles and received in return right-handed pitcher >>>>>>>> David Carpenter. The Red Sox sought and received permission from >>>>>>>> Toronto >>>>>>>> to talk directly to Farrell and made the agreement late last night. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Farrell, 50, was the Red Sox’ pitching coach from 2007-10, a period >>>>>>>> in which the staff held opponents to an American League-low .254 >>>>>>>> batting >>>>>>>> average and led the league in strikeouts (4,771). Farrell is the >>>>>>>> seventh >>>>>>>> manager in major league history acquired by one club while under >>>>>>>> contract >>>>>>>> to another. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> “I’m extremely excited to be returning to the Red Sox and to >>>>>>>> Boston,” said Farrell. “I love this organization. It’s a great >>>>>>>> franchise >>>>>>>> in a special city and region, with great fans, and we want nothing more >>>>>>>> than to reward their faith in us.” >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> “We are thrilled to name John Farrell as our new manager,” said >>>>>>>> Executive Vice-President/General Manager Ben Cherington, who made the >>>>>>>> announcement. “John has been a major league pitcher, front office >>>>>>>> executive, coach, and manager. His broad set of experiences, and >>>>>>>> exceptional leadership skills, make him the ideal person to lead our >>>>>>>> team. >>>>>>>> I have known him in various capacities throughout my career, and I >>>>>>>> hold him >>>>>>>> in the highest regard as a baseball man and as a person.” >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Under Farrell, the Blue Jays finished 81-81 (.500) in 2011 and >>>>>>>> 73-89 (.451) in 2012. Prior to joining the Red Sox in 2007, Farrell >>>>>>>> spent >>>>>>>> five years as Director of Player Development for the Cleveland Indians >>>>>>>> (November, 2001-November, 2006). The Indians earned “Organization of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> Year” honors in 2003 and 2004 from *USA Today’s Sports Weekly* and >>>>>>>> were named by *Baseball America* as the top farm system in 2003. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> “We met some outstanding managerial candidates in this process,” >>>>>>>> said Red Sox President/CEO Larry Lucchino. “John Farrell brings a >>>>>>>> unique >>>>>>>> blend of managerial experience, leadership and presence, pitching >>>>>>>> expertise, front office experience, and an established track record >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> many members of our uniformed staff and members of our front office. >>>>>>>> He >>>>>>>> will hit the ground running.” >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When Farrell was Boston’s pitching coach, right-hander Clay >>>>>>>> Buchholz and southpaw Jon Lester were All-Stars. In his first year >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> the Red Sox, the club won the 2007 World Series. They reached the >>>>>>>> postseason each of his first three seasons in Boston. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Compensation to acquire a manager from another club has been >>>>>>>> required four times previously, and 52 years ago, two managers were >>>>>>>> traded >>>>>>>> for each other. In September, 2011, Miami acquired Ozzie Guillen and >>>>>>>> right-hander Ricardo Andres from the White Sox and sent right-hander >>>>>>>> Jhan >>>>>>>> Marinez and infielder Ozzie Martinez. In October, 2002, Tampa Bay >>>>>>>> acquired >>>>>>>> Lou Piniella and infielder Antonio Perez from Seattle and sent >>>>>>>> outfielder >>>>>>>> Randy Winn. In November, 1976, Pittsburgh acquired Chuck Tanner and >>>>>>>> cash >>>>>>>> from Oakland and sent catcher Manny Sanguillen. In November, 1967, the >>>>>>>> Mets acquired Gil Hodges from Washington and sent right-hander Bill >>>>>>>> Denehy >>>>>>>> and cash. During the 1960 season, managers Joe Gordon and Jimmy Dykes >>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>> swapped by Cleveland and Detroit, respectively. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In Farrell’s first year as the Red Sox’ pitching coach, the staff >>>>>>>> led the American League with a 3.87 ERA (618 ER/1,438.2 IP). Red Sox >>>>>>>> pitchers also led the AL in strikeouts with 1,185 in 2008 and 1,207 in >>>>>>>> 2010. From 2007-10, hurlers posted the third-best ERA in the league, >>>>>>>> 4.11 >>>>>>>> (2,637 ER/5,778.1 IP). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Aviles, 31, played 136 games for the Red Sox in 2012, primarily at >>>>>>>> shortstop (128 games). He hit .250 with 13 home runs and 60 RBI. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Carpenter, 27, has struck out 60 in 60 innings over 67 career major >>>>>>>> league games, all in relief, with the Astros (2011-12) and Blue Jays >>>>>>>> (2012). He is 1-5 with one save and a 5.70 ERA (38 ER) in his big >>>>>>>> league >>>>>>>> career. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The right-hander appeared in 33 major league games in 2012, >>>>>>>> including 30 with the Astros prior to being sent to the Blue Jays in a >>>>>>>> 10-player trade July 20. In 2012, he also pitched in 23 minor league >>>>>>>> games >>>>>>>> for Houston’s Triple-A club in Oklahoma City and Toronto’s Triple-A Las >>>>>>>> Vegas affiliate, posting a 1-1 record with four saves, a 3.08 ERA (9 >>>>>>>> ER/26.1 IP), with 25 strikeouts and only seven walks in 26.1 innings. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He made his major league debut with the Astros in 2011, and was 1-3 >>>>>>>> with a 2.93 ERA (9 ER/27.2 IP) while striking out 29 in 27.2 innings >>>>>>>> in 34 >>>>>>>> outings. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Originally a catcher, Carpenter converted to pitching mid-way >>>>>>>> through the 2008 season. Since that time, he has averaged 9.56 >>>>>>>> strikeouts >>>>>>>> per nine innings pitched (215 K/202.1 IP) while compiling a 12-9 record >>>>>>>> with 53 saves and a 3.02 ERA (68 ER) in 178 career minor league games >>>>>>>> exclusively in relief. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Click >>>>>>>> here<http://link.redsox.com/u/1/95601068/b29512-b37917c0-e484-421b-8e52-5b0a0a285206/contact-fe08b3f052804539a56c173dcdcde943-5488e4eca2674449a3e0d437f419a8b1/gvpxrgf/enlfnyrzv/pbz?f=t>if >>>>>>>> you don't wish to receive these messages in the future. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "CRST Tickets" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/crst_tickets?hl=en. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed 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