I may have been imprecise; my point is not that UW was trying to ban all religious speech, only that it was expressly banning a particular kind of speech (Bible study groups, or perhaps more generally religious study meetings) defined by its religiosity. Such discrimination against subcategories of religious speech is presumptively unconstitutional, it seems to me, even if it doesn't discriminate against all religious speech.
But as to the university's fear about the student's fear, I'm not sure I quite understand Steve's argument. I agree that a student won't be influenced by religious views that he never hears about. But say that a student hears that the RA is a minister in Church X, or is prominently involved in Church X, or conducts a student group outside his dorm room that relates to Church X. Why would the student distinguish that from the RA's conducting Church X Bible study in his dorm room? In either case, a student might equally say "I think enthusiastic members of Church X have certain biases, and that makes me reluctant to ask those members for advice." If the student, for instance, is gay, and thinks that members of Church X strongly disapprove of homosexuality, I take it that it's the RA's publicly known membership in Church X that would make the student uncomfortable about coming to the RA, regardless of how this membership becomes known. Eugene Steve Sanders writes: I recognize that it makes this case seem much more troubling to characterize the university policy as a blanket ban on all religious speech in a person's private room. But I'm afraid we're beginning to argue scenarios somewhat different from what's been presented. Eugene characterizes this as "allowing the RA to engage in a wide range of speech in his dorm room -- just not religious speech" and the "university ... trying to govern what RAs say to their friends and classmates -- even ones who aren't coming in for counseling -- at any time during the day in their dorm rooms." It would be helpful to know the source for these categorical characterizations, which seem to me to go beyond the facts in evidence. My own reading of what's happening -- based, I admit, on only a sketchy newspaper story combined with my own experience on a campus -- is that the RA makes it public knowledge that he hosts Bible study in his room or some common area of the dorm (it's unclear which), and probably extends an invitation to those who'd like to participate. (If these were not openly advertised events, it's doubtful they would have come to the University's attention as a matter of concern.) So what we have is not just any religious speech exchanged among students in the privacy of someone's room, but rather, more precisely, an educational program, if not a devotional exercise, being run by the RA and (probably) advertised within the workplace. The university's fear, as I understand it, is that students who don't share the RA's perspectives will feel less able to come to him, *not* because of his personal identity, beliefs, or the religious viewpoints he might express in his dorm room, but because his public profile as an organizer of on-site religious activities raises a concern that he may bring perspectives to their problems that would be inappropriate for a state actor. _______________________________________________ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.