Re: The Holiday That Dare Not Speak Its Name

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Steve is precisely correct on this.  The United States culture owes a great deal to Christian principles, to be sure, but also to the ancient Roman and Greek cultures, among others.     The triumphalist claims to Christian ownership or founding of this culture is hubris, not historical fact.  And I say this as a committed Christian.     Marci   In a message dated 11/29/2005 8:41:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Certainly the Catholic church with its calendar and requirements is also "not just a religion, it is also a culture."  And the JWs and the evangelicals and so on.  I wouldn't go quite so far as Jim Henderson because western culture(s) owes much to so many none-Christian sources that to call it an embodiment of Christianity in culture is a bit much. On Nov 29, 2005, at 8:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/28/2005 11:45:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:    No, Mazel Tov is not "religious", but it is a Jewish phrase.  And unlike Xtianity, Judaism is not just a religion, it is also a culture.  Using Hebrew or Yiddish phrases is being very outwardly Jewish, no matter how non-religious the particular phrases are.  Being outwardly very Jewish is therefore not at all like being outwardly or evangelically Xtian. I wonder.  What if one stepped back a bit, looking at the larger culture and claimed that Western Civilization was an embodiment of Christianity in culture?   Jim Henderson Senior Counsel ACLJ

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